Logan County, OK - Oil & Gas Discussion archives

Happy Easter everyone-----There hasn’t been any discussion, is everybody coloring their eggs? I miss the chatter, I’ve learned a lot from all of you. It rained here this morning, maybe 1/4 inch. Just as long as they keep on, drill, baby, drill.

Richard,

Thanks for the information. Do you know how many is in Noble & Garfield?

Kaye,

The reason for the vertical wells are cost and what shade/sand they are going too. Not all shade/sands do good as Horizontal wells.

Riachard,

Thanks, looks like a great site.

Virginia

Just another note about the vertical wells. In Township 17N, 3West, Logan County, the verticals permitted in the post few months have been for “Disposal Wells”. Many, perhaps all, are for recompleting a previous well. Someone who knows more than I should share what “Disposal” means. My impression is that some or all of the fracking fluids are returned deep below the earth’s surface.

I learned over the weekend from a family member who is now a “gauger” for some of the eagle ford shale wells that part of his job is to monitor the tanks as they fill up with fluids in order to drain out the water that flows back with the oil for reuse [some of it needs to be cleaned a bit before recycling] until the tank is full so that a truck can be scheduled to come retrieve the oil. [The oil rises to the top, by the way].

Interesting how lay people get educated on some things these days.

Water is then, this is now. In Texas there are drillings not using water, but, something else more plentiful and affordable. I forget what they are using now, but will look it up, I read it only last week. Someone asked, “What if…?” It is coming to Oklahoma shortly, and might just be here next week.

I will look this up as it is not off the top of my head, just what the elevation of Logan County is, I would guess close to 5-600 feet asl. So if someone drills compared to Gulf Depths, which is in the 30-35,000 feet down, we would have to add another thousand feet to get that deep, but my question is, has any well been drilled anywhere near that depth in Oklahoma? I doubt it. But one thing is certain, they know it is down there, and that they will get it. The goals even today are not in the hundreds of bpd, but in the thousands.

http://www.texastribune.org/2013/03/27/fracking-without-water-makes…

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2013/03/27/company-that-recy…

From the Stephens County site from Ron McKenzie

All hands on deck–Now hear this pipe–the Perdido Oil Rig, operated by Shell Oil, 300 miles off the Texas coast, and drilling through over 8000 feet of water, is now pumping over 100,000 barrels per day, every day. It is my unswayable opinion that this technology is now here in Oklahoma. It is here and it is NOW, amd it is ready, and it works. Carry on.

Virginia,

Thanks for helping us. Soo. is it logical that when they refer to “recompletion” it might mean unplugging and possible drilling deeper???

Oops. Pardon me, Ronald you are right. 2010 it was.

Shell has been a leader in deep-water exploration and production for the last 30 years. Perdido in the Gulf of Mexico is one of our most challenging deep-water projects. Shell has a 35% interest in the project and is the operator. Perdido is in a water depth of some 2,450 metres (8,000 feet). First production from Perdido was on March 31, 2010.

Harley,

Re completion doesn’t always mean going deeper, but it can mean that. They may have had some good showing going down the hole, but was planning on going to a certain depths and this sand isn’t producing like it use too, so they will come in and put a cement plug in the hole and come up to the other sand, or they may just drill deeper, no plug. The object here is to optimize whatever sand that may have the most reservoir fluids. In order to change sand/shade/carbon they have to get a permit from OCC. One thing we have to remember, these wells are nothing like off shore drilling. These oil fields in Logan Co have been drained since the late 1920/1930, we just have figured out a newer way to get some more oil. I think it was in 1930 or somewhere around that time that H wells where drilled, but they just didn’t have the knowledge, hp motors & fixed cutter drilling bits to drill like they do today. So, some of the old wells are being re completed in different sands and if they can get a good frack, they get some good v wells. I had better explain, old drilling bits where kind of like fixed cutter except some of the first one were plungers, that was used to go up and down, now they go round. They start the v part of the well with rotary bits and switch to the fix cutter on the H part. I’m sure someone on here can explain it a lot better than I can.

Disposal well illustration for Virginia’s guidance: Permit for API-08324041, Chambers 1-8 SWD at 8-17N-3W. Elevation 1075, formations down through Arbuckle at 6930 to total depth of 9000.

Ronald,

I know lots of dreamers and they never got ahead. My son has 39 patients in the electronic world, some of your computer chips were designed by him, etc. My husband designed lots of things that Halliburton uses today. But, you have to understand nothing happens over night. H drilling is fairly new, gas fracking is still being tried and improved, but oil isn’t everywhere. So no matter how much you dream it may not be there. I feel only God put it where it’s suppose to be.

Have a Happy Easter.

Ronald,

I won’t be flying with you. Most of north Logan Co is 980 to 1100 MSL (mean sea level) . Its about 450 to 550 MSL in Dallas/Ft. Worth area. I would have to pull our flight maps to tell you exactly on the airport MSL. I believe Guthrie is 980 MSL and Perry in Noble Co is about 1100 MSL.

Shell Oil company drilled a well s of Elk City, OK to 24,000 ft. Best I can remember it was the 2nd deepest well on land.

What are they using instead of water to drill the wells. I haven’t heard of it yet.

They are fracking the wells which usually can take up to 300,000 bb water with propane or gas. It’s a lot more costly and still is very new. Their are a few things still not worked out on it, but does look real good in the future. I have a gas frack well and it’s doing O K so far, at least it didn’t get a lot of water back when they did it. Have to see what happens in the future.

Still skeptical??? YOUTUBE search for Perdido Oil Rig. Enjoy.

I care little about education of the lay people, better known as losers, I believe in education of the dreamers, the pioneers, the believers and the doers. I care nothing about settling for what has been done, I am a firm believer in “What if…” That is how everything grows and expands, always has been and always will be. Settling for “well, that’s the best we can do…” has never accomplished anything, not ever. Living in and/or concentrating on the past makes people old, dried out, confused, and not able to accomplish much of anything. Probably 99 percent of our population is in the loser catagory, settling for less than we can do, and laughing at the dreamers, the very same who believed we could create light inside of sphere of glass, or combustion inside of an engine block. What if—is the driving force of everything, and we ain’t seen nothing in North Central Oklahoma yet, or I am a Monkey’s Uncle. This is education. This is reality and the view from the top of the hill.

Harley,

A disposal well is usually drilled below any known producing sands that has a large cavity and it’s to disposal salt water.

I think what your family member was talking about was the fracking water that comes back with the oil. this is usually drained off the oil and since water is in such short supplied, they are reusing it. Once the well get stabilized, then the separator ( has a different name, but can’t think of it) will take the water off and put it in the salt water lines. The oil goes in the tanks. His title of a “gauger” used to be called a “pumper”. Most of the new wells are electronics meter, so a gauger spends every little time at the well site except for oil pick up. Also, they have to call a waste truck to pump out the slugs (settling) ever so often that will be in the bottom of the oil tanks. You need to go to the well site with your relation and get a first hand education. That would be wonderful, I would like to go at least, so can you invite me? So much has changed in the last few years, and I’m still in the old school.

Wish I would spell before I type. It’s patents not patients.

I

Here is a link to CHEVRON’s discovery in the Gulf. I had to check it out since my little Shell Oil Pension did not flinch a bit higher when hearing of Ronald’s recent discovery.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/chevron-announces-oil-discovery-in…

Yep, that is roughly 4-500 ft elevated from Dallas Ft Worth, more than I guessed. The onlyiest thing I know about flying is my Daddy installed gyroscopes for auto pilots on B-29’s at Boeing in Wichita during WWII. I remember them flyimg over our house and dropping Victory leafletts. I recall Easter 1945, cause we kids had Easter colored eggs and running down the street, some kid wanted my egg and tried to take it away from me, it broke and turned out to be an almost raw egg. To this day I hate raw eggs.