I will delete the post since it sounds as if is was inappropriate for this group. Thank you Frank Pfisch.
Hey yall
I was offered a lease from Oaky Energy, Signed notarized, and sent. They came back with a letter stating they can not go through with it because the well in question is be Held By Production ( HBP ). I have not seen Royalties from this, and do not recall agreeing to a lease to this. Can someone tell me what my options are ?Thomas J Mattingly, I believe you have been force pooled. You will need to find out who the producer is. I have been force pooled and never contacted by anyone. You will have to find them. They wonât find you.
Walck814, not at all inappropriate. A illegitimate question, thats what this forum is for and Darla has helped a lot of people. .
Thomas, That section was part of the Panther Creek Hart Sand Unit. You can look up all of the unitization documents on the OCC-Unitization tab under Imaged Documents. Order 35580 Case # 9975. You can download the documents for your files. The unitization agreement has a map at the end and the assignment of the parts of s 34. Your description probably falls with in one of those ânewâ tract names. As long as that unit is economic, you are HBP. I didnât read all of the documents, but there are four of them on the OCC website. I think one is about termination.
The good news for you is that you are getting a horizontal well. It spuds in Sec 3 2N-3W and goes north into 34 and 27. Most likely, you will get paid on the well per the unit agreement. The well is called the Massive 1-34-27MXH and spud on 11/7/17. Casillas is drilling the well. Coincidentally, I just got a notice from them today about their emergency heard for approval. Love it when they start drilling before they get approved. I am in sec. 27 just to the north of you. There are a whole bunch of Mattinglys on the Respondents list for the new well. Are you all getting the notices? Have you been paid on this section? It has been active for decades with many wells since it is an active field. I can give you a list of the active wells as of Dec. 2016. Are you getting checks from Sheridan, Weatherley or Crawley Petroleum? If not, they may be holding funds for you.
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Hi Tom,
Sounds like you need legal advice and a lot more information. Have you talked to a lawyer?
Walck814âsounds like you are asking for legal advice. Best place to get that is in a law office, not on the internet. I bet Darla knows some good lawyers in Garvin County.
No question is dumb.
I am Just a landman and mineral owner that knows how to look up leases/production, etc. I give people information based on what is recorded at the county and corporation commission. If you donât have your information then an attorney will just turn around and hire someone like me to find the information (and charge you for it) and then give you their advice. I work with several local attorneys if you would rather call them first. The largest firm is Garvin, Agee and Carlton , their number is 405-238-1000. Another attorney that I do a lot of work for is Dan Sprouse 405-238-3361. If they call me to work I have to charge for it. I was just going to take a quick look at no charge because you were in my home county. Not give legal advice or run title. Just make sure that whatever attorney you use is familiar with oil and gas law. Not all are. I do not solicit work on the forum, however, several members have hired me to find problems in their title. I do like to help people with what I consider simple things for no charge when I can. Too many mineral owners are taken advantage of like I was when I first inherited some of my minerals.
This is the letter I received from the landman . This is for ( Section34-3N-3W ) Our title confirmation revealed that your interest is held by production (HBP). Most of todayâs leases/exhibits will have a depth clause that makes non-producing formations open to lease even if thereâs a producing well. This was not common practice back in 1945 therefore all formations are held by that old well that is still producing. I hope this helps, Cody M. Loepp Okie Energy Group, LLC 918.724.0409
Looks like five horizontals going in soon through sections 17 and 20, 3N 4W. One existing well to be refracked as well. Continental Resources. Got the paperwork yesterday.
I just want to say that this forum is very helpful. I appreciate having a chance to learn more about this complicated mineral rights owner business by reading these exchanges.
Don,
Usually the completion reports donât come out until about four months after completion, so I am guessing January until you might see it. Division Orders probably about February. The increased density hearing will have documentation on the current wells, so you will glean some information from that. I donât see the exhibits posted yet.
The MCCAA 1-30-19H well in Sec30 2N 2W was spud on May 3, 1917. Rimrock Resource since has been seeking approval for increased density. I received the latest notice in November. The OCC website does not have a completion report (1002A) for this well. Can we assume they completed this well but are withholding filing the completion until their current order for increased density is approved? The Herrin 1-32-29H well in Sec 29 2N 2W started producing in August. Initial production was 600 bls per day plus some gas. I am hoping to get some division orders in next several months.
Thanks Martha. You are always a wealth of info. Merry Christmas and a very lucrative New Year for all.
Don, I checked with Rimrock last week on several of their wells in 2N 2W and they have not sent division orders out on any of them. They said they do not have their updated division order title opinions. I have a couple clients who are trying to get their RI amounts corrected with them before division orders come out.
Darla, thanks for the info. This is my first time to receive money from a producing well. How much time does Rimrock have to send out division orders? Do the mineral owners get money from the date the well started producing or some later time?
Question regarding horizontal drilling. For example, MCCAA 1-30-19H is designated as a horizontal well but I canât locate any info that it started as a traditional vertical well. If that is not necessary, how does the mineral owner who holds that particular site get paid?
If it is a horizontal well, it does start as a vertical well, but it is not listed that way. The mineral owner of the surface location site may not get paid if there are no perforations in the section. Often, a horizontal well will be started in a section to the north or south of the intended reservoir and then the turn to horizontal will be made partially in the SL section and then completed in the intended section. You cannot perforate within a certain number of feet of the section line. Only the mineral owners of sections with the actual perforations will get paid.
Thanks again Martha. This forum has been so helpful these past three years I have been a member. I am always learning new things thanks to you seasoned professionals. It appears that my minerals in Sec 29 & 30 2N2W may get some good plays over the next few years.
I received notice today that Rimrock received approval for a multiunit horizontal well in MCCAA 1-30-19H in Sec 30, 2N2W. The approval is for the Woodford only. The Sycamore and Hinton were dismissed by the Commission. The allocation of cost and production is 41% for Sec 30 and 59% for Sec 19. Rimrock anticipates developing the south half of Sec 30 and into Sec 31. The vertical well has already been drilled but no completion info yet.