Mr. Klingman,
Your offer to help gives landmen everywhere a better image. Many landmen complained about on this board are characterized as obnoxious, condescending dilettantes.
I am sorry you have such extreme difficulties in your life but not everyone finds it so difficult but in smaller percentages of cases. The last chain of title I ran had a patent deed, one conveyance and a couple of expired leases, wow so difficult, no need for 10 or 20 years experience there unless you count the need to be able to read, may not have needed to have an IQ above 90. Some things are simple, when they become difficult or need explanation you seek help. Even professionals need help on occasion. If you start off believing something is too difficult you've already given up and set yourself up for defeat. You can convince yourself but from experience your not going to convince me only a professional can do a given task no matter what profession. Yes, being a landman is a profession even though not all landmen are professional.
I didn't bother reading all twenty responses after your question Jacqueline, I apologize if someone else already mentioned this. Do you have a copy of the actual probate? Before you go searching for all of this other property, I would get copies of the probate and see what all property was listed in the estate. A simple request and payment, easily accomplished by mail, might reveal additional details you are unaware of.
Simple minds tend to state issues in a simple manner.
I would submit that the opposite of what he said is true. If you think it is always so easy, and don't allow for the many contingencies or alternative possibilities that may occur, well, quite frankly it will kick your ass.
Maybe I'm just unlucky. I almost always get the hard ones, the ones where even "seasoned landmen and attorneys make major mistakes."
I am truly appreciative of all the replies given to me, and thank each and everyone of you that took the time to explain things to me. Even though some of the replies were a little silly, I thank each and everyone of you. Jacqueline
I quickly learned to appreciate what expertise an experienced land man has when I was researching chain of title to my mineral rights inherited from my father. My sister and I went into the county clerks office not knowing a thing or having any idea about where to start. Guess who gave us all the help... a few kind land men sharing with us how to do the research. Although we found a lot of information, I also found out quickly it's not as easy as finding a mineral deed. I did find out a lot of fascinating family history in doing my research, and what helped me a lot was doing Geneology history before going to the court house so I could search for documents under the names of my family members.
Sit thank you for your reply. I do have the probate of my mothers estate, but remember my brother has intentionally omitted any assest he could in order not to share. Now if I can find my fathers probate, then that would list all the properties owned of mineral rights, but have had not success doing this. Its hard to believe but Pawnee county has no record of a probate done on my father. Of course everything he had went to my mother. I assumed my mother had a will from him, but there again no record can be found. Would you know how I could go about finding my fathers will? Thank you for your time and kindness in trying to help me. It is certainly appreciated. Jacqueline
Kitchen said:
I didn't bother reading all twenty responses after your question Jacqueline, I apologize if someone else already mentioned this. Do you have a copy of the actual probate? Before you go searching for all of this other property, I would get copies of the probate and see what all property was listed in the estate. A simple request and payment, easily accomplished by mail, might reveal additional details you are unaware of.
Thank you
Thank u and MOEA. I just found a couple thou in unclaimed mineral rights....I am in somewhat in the other ladies boat, cept I have found about twenty sections n townships and numbers in xtephens county,ok.,owned by deceased mom, live in Texas and have 3 brothers who don' t want to go to the bank 30 times for notaries on quit claims. Now a coupla are producing some and holding money..if only there were one legal document they could sign releasing all the rights to me in a one shot deal?? They have no interest, in actuality, but there names are scary to title people........Then I to need to locate more scattered rights...if u read this site, very often, your head will stop spinning so fast..then I am gonna go back to that other L-Man's post to.get the correct spelling to study if I fall under this DURHIG?? Ruling?? ..not for nothing but u Landmen seem like u can get bout
as heated as republicans in line for obamacare insurance cArds.....jus kiddin...k? I am very grateful that God even put me in touch with this site..not kiddin....all glory to him u know....lil teri
Mineral Joe said:
They have grantor/grantee books that list recorded documents by name so it is a pretty simple search. It is booked by years and listed by name and that is what you need to go back to search. You may want to search your grandparents and other relatives names also. There has been a fair amount of leasing in those counties so search now and in the future in the MOEA with the Oklahoma Corporation Commission.
Duhig Rule.