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Could anyone tell me if there is any activity around Section 8, Block 55, Township 4… I have 40 mineral acres I would like to lease…

George – your description –- “… BHP/Petrohawk… 320 acres in a 640 acre pool… AP#389-33564… horizontal” –- appears to be all correct. The well, SMITH STATE 4-42 #1H, is in H&GN, BLK 4, SEC 42, about 3-1/2 miles NNW of Pecos. The spud date (the day drilling commenced) was 3-11-13. RigData’s w/e 5/3 report shows the well status as ‘drilling ahead’ after 54 days. However, the report also shows that rig has been ‘assigned’ to a nearby well with an estimated spud date of 5/8. This indicates the drilling of the SMITH well is nearing completion. The next step is for a completion unit to be move in and ‘finally complete’ the well. Later – Buzz

Daniel, what do you mean by “shared” property?

George, I find 389-33564 but cannot find any completion reports on your well or surrounding section horizontal wells. There are a number of plugged and dry holes in surrounding sections. Since you have a division order though, would seem something is coming up out of the ground. Comparing one well to another is dangerous because there are many factors that make comparisons faulty such as the depth and other factors. You should continue to monitor the RRC website for Completion Query and the Production Reports Query (none filed for your well through March 2013) as an indicator of production.

Thanks R W Kennedy

Paul… an undivided interest in acreage where some owners have not paid their share of the land taxes each year, but the land taxes are being paid by one of the other land owners in that section, etc. Hope this makes sense…

Daniel Dale, I think you are looking for the rules on adverse posession by a co-tennant by paying taxes. I think it’s at least difficult for a co-tennant to adversely posess property that he already had the right to use. If you were to pay taxes, fence, mow another persons property, notoriously making use of it, I think it would be easier to claim, since you had no right to use it to begin with. I hope you see the distinction. Paying the taxes for your co-tennant may have just been a really nice favor you did them.

That was quotes from a google search I did on adverse possession in Texas.

thanks Wade…

Someone at the Reeves County tax office told someone in my family that they do not recognize adverse possession on undivided land ownership by someone who pays those taxes… it has no effect on land deeds etc. I knew mineral rights is not effected by adverse land possession.

Louiese

So if you do not pay your share of the taxes on your undivided acreage and someone else included in that undivided acreage pays all the taxes, does he end up owning your acreage? Or is he just doing you a favor?

Failure to pay taxes on your share can be used as evidence to establish adverse possession, and is usually one of the more important pieces of evidence. However, it is not the only factor. If you are a cotenant with someone, even the state, you should contact the appraisal district and get a tax account set up in your name.

Adverse possession is complicated, and full discussion is beyond what I can post on a message board. Also know that, in Texas, minerals cannot be adversely possessed, in general, if they were severed from the surface before the adverse possession started on the surface.

A person cannot acquire property by adverse possession from the State of Texas or a political subdivision of the state, such as counties, cities, navigation districts, municipal utility districts, and certain other entities.Unless the claimant is fortunate enough to obtain voluntary releases or deeds from all other potential owners, a lawsuit is usually necessary in order to establish a claim of adverse possession. Such lawsuits tend to be very fact-intensive and difficult to litigate because the relevant events occur over a period of many years, and as a result important witnesses have often died or moved away. Effect of Adverse Possession Whether limitation title is perfected on a voluntary basis or by a final judgment, the successful claimant acquires full title the same as if such title had been conveyed by deed in writing from the record owner. Accordingly, a title based on limitation defeats all prior title held by anyone else, including the homestead rights held by prior owners, claims under tax deeds or prior judgments, and even liens held by the creditors of any prior owner.

I own undivided acreage and if I don’t pay my taxes the state of texas removes me as an agent for the state. My land is state classified, and the state of texas is generous enough to share 50/50 with me as long as I pay my taxes.

Strange…I have never seen an abstract number re. My acreage. Everything has always been block and section. Same with maps for that matter as they never show abstracts.

Stephen, use Buzz’ s RRC link then click on the RRC’s public GIS map viewer and you will be on the viewer. Then on menu select a tool from the list and select Reeves County from the list and the viewer will zoom in on Reeves County. Then find your block.

Janis , in Reeves County there are three Block 56. There is Block 56, TSP 2 and Block 56, TSP 3. These two are north, northeast of Block 56’ PSL. My wife has mineral in sections 17 and 18 of Block 56, PSL just a mile north of your section 30. Texas is noted for being one of the worst surveyed states, only Louisiana is worse , so many say. This is because so many different entities did the different surveys. Donny

Janis, as a follow up, my wife’s minerals in sections 17 and 18 in Block 56, PSL are not leased at present, so since your section 30 is so close to 17 and 18, I will be interested in any leasing or drilling developments in your section. Donny

Daniel, you mentioned that you had interest in Blk 56, Sec 30 , Ab#2291. My family currently has an active lease with Petrohawk on the same Ours says PSL and you mentioned T-3. Do you know if these are separate properties ?

Thanks, Donny. I was concerned because the abstract number was the same. As far as I can tell there is no drilling activity at this time. We leased it in 2011 for 5 years.

Stephen – check out this Texas GLO GIS map site… usually they depict Abstract Numbers (if you ‘drill down’ enough): http://gisweb.glo.texas.gov/glomap/

IMO, the Abstract Number is the single most individual value item useful in locating a particular property.

Also, the Abstract Number is usually shown on your county/school tax invoice.

In addition, you can use the Abstract Number to search on the RRC Map Viewer:

        [http://www.rrc.state.tx.us/data/online/gis/index.php#](http://www.rrc.state.tx.us/data/online/gis/index.php#)

Granted, you’ll have to do a little grunt work to become proficient in taking advantage of what’s being offered at these two sites… for free. Later – Buzz