When I looked on the NDIC, it showed two wells with two different numbers on 160-98-22. I thought that meant two wells. Does it not? Actually on the map it showed them both, but right next to each other.
mike orsborn said:
Yes! I think that was the term my cousin used. "rat hole".
Mineral Joe said:
Mike, did you mean they drilled a rat hole and mouse hole when you say they spudded or do they really have a separate rig come in and drill to set surface casing now days as to spud a well refers to the rig is on location drilling surface and they don't leave the well until the last string of casing is run.
Julia, you do know that only one well will be yours.
I actually only have 20 acres myself, my sister has 20 acres, one of my brothers has 20 acres and my other brother and his daughter have 10 each, for a total of 80. I talked to my brother and he thinks we should just try to get a better deal and lease if they give us enough for the lease. We have one non-consent well that we have had for a couple of years and they are telling us it will take 33 more months to pay off if things continue as they are.
Gary L. Hutchinson said:
Julia,
You may have a "bird in the hand" maybe 2. You know at least what that is worth. You have many more options than taking a lease with a non-producer. I suspect the Operator will contact you eventually now that you have been discovered. Take your time and think about getting some legal advice if your acreage is big enough.
Gary L Hutchinson
Minerals Management
One of the wells is for 27/34 which is another spacing unit unless you have rights in both.
Julia Watters said:
When I looked on the NDIC, it showed two wells with two different numbers on 160-98-22. I thought that meant two wells. Does it not? Actually on the map it showed them both, but right next to each other.
mike orsborn said:
Yes! I think that was the term my cousin used. "rat hole".
Mineral Joe said:
Mike, did you mean they drilled a rat hole and mouse hole when you say they spudded or do they really have a separate rig come in and drill to set surface casing now days as to spud a well refers to the rig is on location drilling surface and they don't leave the well until the last string of casing is run.
Julia, you do know that only one well will be yours.
It's offsite drilling. I think it used to be done only when they couldn't find a good site for the well, now they do it because it's cheaper and faster.
Julia Watters said:
When I looked on the NDIC, it showed two wells with two different numbers on 160-98-22. I thought that meant two wells. Does it not? Actually on the map it showed them both, but right next to each other.
Julia, you do know that only one well will be yours.
Julia,
Many time they are drilling two wells for the same tract that you would get paid on both but they also drill two wells from the same well site with one hole being under yours and the other going across the road under someone else, in your case one permit states it is for a section you do not own minerals in the unit and therefore will not get paid on.
Yeah Mike they have a small rat hole rig come in and drill the rat hole and mouse hole prior to a rig moving in but the rig spuds in. In case anyone wants to know, the mouse hole is used to make connections and where you place the joint of pipe that is to be used for the next connection and the rat hole is a conductor pipe that is in the cellar and comes up from below ground level to almost the rotary table and is basically so that you have something to hook up the flow line to the shaker on the mud pits to get drilling fluid coming up to the pits until they have spudded in and run surface casing to hook the bop or blow out preventer. Just some useless information there. The first thing a rig does after they move onto location and get rigged up is spud.
Thanks Mineral Joe for the information,
I'm not very knowledgeable about the terms and was only going by the ND site that you can pull up info on wells (shows a well map I zoomed in on) and click find well. That pulled up Baytex for 22601 and gave a bunch of info across the bottom. One of the notes on there was "Spud date" and it listed April 16th I think? Anyway, thats where I pulled the info from. It is obviously by your account somewhat wrong! Sorry to anyone about the incorrect terminology. Thanks again, Mineral Joe for the new information, I for one have enjoyed the test of new education. It's good for the mind!. I've since read the difference between spud hole and rat hole!
Mineral Joe said:
Julia,
Many time they are drilling two wells for the same tract that you would get paid on both but they also drill two wells from the same well site with one hole being under yours and the other going across the road under someone else, in your case one permit states it is for a section you do not own minerals in the unit and therefore will not get paid on.
Yeah Mike they have a small rat hole rig come in and drill the rat hole and mouse hole prior to a rig moving in but the rig spuds in. In case anyone wants to know, the mouse hole is used to make connections and where you place the joint of pipe that is to be used for the next connection and the rat hole is a conductor pipe that is in the cellar and comes up from below ground level to almost the rotary table and is basically so that you have something to hook up the flow line to the shaker on the mud pits to get drilling fluid coming up to the pits until they have spudded in and run surface casing to hook the bop or blow out preventer. Just some useless information there. The first thing a rig does after they move onto location and get rigged up is spud.
I was a driller on a rig for many years so I know a little about rigs but we all learn something new each day of our life but I forget more than I learn seems like. Spud date is approximate as delays happen and you got it all right except that one well was or will be drilled under another unit.