# Surface Rights Value
**URL:** https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/surface-rights-value/32340
**Category:** McClain County, OK
**Created:** [August 24, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/surface-rights-value/32340 "2018-08-24T15:31:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@Sandra\_J\_McQuade](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Sandra_J_McQuade)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/surface-rights-value/32340/1 "2018-08-24T15:31:01Z")
In McClain County, how much can one expect to get for surface rights? Since surface rights don’t seem to generate any money from a well or in signing a lease, I’d like to find out if I can sell the surface rights.
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### Author:  [@M\_Barnes](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/M_Barnes)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/surface-rights-value/32340/2 "2018-08-24T15:46:33Z")
Surface rights can generate funds from a pad on location or pipeline right of way for oil or gas or water lines. Since I don’t have any, other folks will have to chime up as to the value of those. They will have their own surface lease which needs to be pretty tight to protect and remediate any environmental damage. The rest of your surface can be sold just like any other real estate for grazing, growing, living, commercial, etc. Market prices prevail.
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### Author:  [@Sandra\_J\_McQuade](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Sandra_J_McQuade)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/surface-rights-value/32340/3 "2018-08-24T16:43:32Z")
Well, the pad I believe is on my section and I didn’t get any extra money when I signed the lease last year.
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### Author:  [@Frank\_Pfisch](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Frank_Pfisch)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/surface-rights-value/32340/4 "2018-08-24T17:04:48Z")
Being on your tract is different from being on your Section. On your tract generates money; somewhere else doesn’t.
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### Author:  [@Sandra\_J\_McQuade](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Sandra_J_McQuade)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/surface-rights-value/32340/5 "2018-08-24T19:48:20Z")
Don’t know what that is or means. But thanks anyway.
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### Author:  [@Frank\_Pfisch](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Frank_Pfisch)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/surface-rights-value/32340/6 "2018-08-24T20:06:52Z")
Land in Oklahoma was surveyed as governmental “Sections” comprised of a 640-acre square. If you own less than the full 640 acres in “your section,” the divided portion you own is commonly referred to as a “tract,” such as the NE/4 of Section 1, Township 6 North Range 4 West.
A good place to learn the terminology is:
> **[Section (United States land surveying)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_(United_States_land_surveying))**
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> In U.S. land surveying under the Public Land Survey System (PLSS), a section is an area nominally one square mile (2.6 square kilometers), containing 640 acres (260 hectares), with 36 sections making up one survey township on a rectangular grid.
> The legal description of a tract of land under the PLSS includes the name of the state, name of the county, township number, range number, section number, and portion of a section. Sections are customarily surveyed into smaller squares by repeated halvin...
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### Author:  [@Rick\_Howell](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Rick_Howell)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/surface-rights-value/32340/7 "2018-08-24T21:06:52Z")
> [@Sandra\_J\_McQuade](#):
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> Well the pad I believe is on my section and I didn’t get any extra money when I signed the lease last year.
Are you sure you own surface rights in the exact place where the well is located?
Think of it as a city block where you live and the entire block is the spacing unit the well produces from. Assume each owner owns the property “fee simple” which includes both surface and mineral rights. Only the person with the well in their back yard would get “surface damages” although all the owners on the block would share in the production of the oil.
If you own the surface rights, your lease agreed to allow them to use the surface. However, they would still owe you surface damages on the property where the well is located.
Also, many times we see a new well go onto an existing pad. Unless someone was pretty experienced in their surface agreement no additional consideration would be due.
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### Author:  [@MatthanBeardBluefin](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/MatthanBeardBluefin)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/surface-rights-value/32340/8 "2018-11-17T01:28:18Z")
Sandra, can you provide more information on the location of your surface rights?
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### Author:  [@MRFAdmin\_SV](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/MRFAdmin_SV)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/surface-rights-value/32340/9 "2025-01-11T18:04:06Z")