# St. Helena, Pine Grove
**URL:** https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709
**Category:** St. Helena Parish, LA
**Created:** [September 30, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709 "2011-09-30T15:15:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@John\_Thompson](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/John_Thompson)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/1 "2011-09-30T15:15:13Z")
Hello Bob,
My name is John. I was inquiring if you know of any oil or gas activity in the Pine Grove area of St. Helena Parish.
I am a property owner in that area and am very interested if there is. My property borders paper company land on two sides.
Thanks.
John
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### Author:  [@Bob\_Souvestre](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Bob_Souvestre)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2011, 1:55pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/2 "2011-10-19T13:55:27Z")
Hi John – I haven’t heard anything but newspaper states activity is increasing, especially by Devon.
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### Author:  [@John\_Thompson](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/John_Thompson)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/3 "2011-10-28T00:20:50Z")
Bob thanks for your reply, one question where is Devon located?
Bob Souvestre said:
> Hi John – I haven’t heard anything but newspaper states activity is increasing, especially by Devon.
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### Author:  [@John\_Thompson](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/John_Thompson)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/4 "2011-11-01T20:47:07Z")
What or where is “Devon”?
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### Author:  [@Bob\_Souvestre](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Bob_Souvestre)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/5 "2011-11-01T21:22:57Z")
Devon Energy is out of Oklahoma.
John Thompson said:
> What or where is “Devon”?
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### Author:  [@Charles\_R\_Coleman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Charles_R_Coleman)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/6 "2012-01-13T16:51:39Z")
Hello. I’m new to the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale/St. Helena Parish groups. Have been contacted by DEVON. Charles.
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### Author:  [@Bob\_Souvestre](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Bob_Souvestre)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/7 "2012-01-15T01:38:14Z")
Hello Charles – Would you share the terms that Devon is offering and on how many acres that you own? And did Devon contact you directly or are you dealing with a Landman? Thanks, Bob.
Charles R. Coleman said:
Hello. I’m new to the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale/St. Helena Parish groups. Have been contacted by DEVON. Charles.
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### Author:  [@Charles\_R\_Coleman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Charles_R_Coleman)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/8 "2012-01-17T15:32:02Z")
Good morning Bob. Relatives have been contacted by DEVON, telephone contact is over, they have all info needed. I am anxious to see what comes in the first mail contact… would that be an offer?
Bob Souvestre said:
Hello Charles – Would you share the terms that Devon is offering and on how many acres that you own? And did Devon contact you directly or are you dealing with a Landman? Thanks, Bob.
Charles R. Coleman said:
Hello. I’m new to the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale/St. Helena Parish groups. Have been contacted by DEVON. Charles.
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### Author:  [@Charles\_R\_Coleman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Charles_R_Coleman)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/9 "2012-03-12T16:12:01Z")
I have a question. Landman offered $100.00 an acre for three years. Is this $100.00 an acre each of the three years?
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### Author:  [@Bob\_Souvestre](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Bob_Souvestre)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/10 "2012-03-12T16:25:10Z")
The lease terms will be specific and written. Lease terms vary. It is important to read and understand what the written lease states.
Charles R. Coleman said:
> I have a question. Landman offered $100.00 an acre for three years. Is this $100.00 an acre each of the three years?
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### Author:  [@Charles\_R\_Coleman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Charles_R_Coleman)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2012, 6:40am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/11 "2012-03-13T06:40:51Z")
Question: (small tract of land) If the operator does only the horizontal drilling, would they need to lease the surface also…?
> Bob Souvestre said:
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> The lease terms will be specific and written. Lease terms vary. It is important to read and understand what the written lease states.
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> > Charles R. Coleman said:
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> > I have a question. Landman offered $100.00 dollars an acre for three years. Is this $100.00 an acre each of the three years?
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### Author:  [@Bob\_Souvestre](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Bob_Souvestre)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/12 "2012-03-14T17:10:28Z")
I am not familiar with leasing so can’t answer this question.
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### Author:  [@Andrew2](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Andrew2)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2012, 2:39am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/13 "2012-09-07T02:39:06Z")
As to Charles’s two questions:
1. The particular lease terms will determine how you are paid, when, and for what. However, most leases being taken today, particularly in the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale, are “paid-up” leases, meaning you receive a one-time bonus payment rather than a periodic rental payment. Based on what you posted, and “common practice,” it appears you are being offered a $100 per acre, one-time signing bonus for granting a three year lease. The bonus would normally be paid in full at the time you sign the lease.
2. Operators rarely, if ever, lease the surface land itself. A standard oil and gas lease in Louisiana gives the company the right to use land for the well location, but only so much as is “reasonably necessary.” Simply put, even though the well will be horizontal, they have to poke a hole somewhere. Typically well locations will not be on tracts smaller than 20 acres, and there are laws regulating how many feet away from a building a well can be. If you are concerned about your surface land being used for drilling or operations, you could request that your lease have a “no surface operations” clause that prohibits such activity. If your tract is small, this should not be a problem for the lessee.
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### Author:  [@system](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2018, 4:11am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/st-helena-pine-grove/22709/14 "2018-08-15T04:11:15Z")