# No division order yet
**URL:** https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138
**Category:** Grady County, OK
**Created:** [July 13, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138 "2020-07-13T18:32:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@graceful99](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/graceful99)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/1 "2020-07-13T18:32:37Z")
Martha,
This month, July, is the sixth month after first sale of oil and gas from Black Mesa. I have yet to receive a division order. Should I call Camino and ask about this?
Thanks.
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### Author:  [@TODD\_M\_Baker](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/TODD_M_Baker)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/2 "2020-07-13T18:50:50Z")
Certified letters do more good. Be sure to ask for 12% interest if no revenue in 180 days from first production.
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### Author:  [@Terisa\_L\_Miller](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Terisa_L_Miller)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/3 "2020-07-13T19:22:37Z")
I’m in 4-5-5 with the Great Plains Horizontal well. Haven’t received anything yet either!
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### Author:  [@M\_Barnes](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/M_Barnes)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/4 "2020-07-13T19:30:13Z")
Same advice. COVID has thrown everyone for a loop (more than usual). Lots of folks are working from home and may not have access to all the data that they need to do their jobs, or they may be furloughed, etc.
Send a certified return receipt letter asking for interest. Keep copies of everything that you send.
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### Author:  [@graceful99](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/graceful99)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/5 "2020-07-14T18:20:41Z")
I did call Camino. They tell me they have until six months after date of FIRST SALE to start payment. They are saying first sale was Feb 6, 2020. I have always heard it is six months after first date of production. Which is correct? Thanks.
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### Author:  [@M\_Barnes](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/M_Barnes)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/6 "2020-07-14T19:02:39Z")
First sales is the date. Not production.
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### Author:  [@TODD\_M\_Baker](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/TODD_M_Baker)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/7 "2020-07-14T19:20:58Z")
Pretty much the same these days as most, but not all, wells are fracked into sales lines.
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### Author:  [@graceful99](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/graceful99)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/8 "2020-07-14T21:34:27Z")
Thank you Martha. Is the calculation based on months, not days? (i.e., not 180 days but six months, regardless of the days in month?)
Just want to get it right in case I have to get interest.
Thanks to you all.
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### Author:  [@M\_Barnes](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/M_Barnes)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/9 "2020-07-14T22:22:59Z")
Based on months. If you have marketable title, the interest is 12% compounded annually. It usually wait until I get the first check and then ask for interest if the second month passes without it. Sometimes they automatically send it on the second check month, so I wait for the second check so saved myself certified mail charges if it is there. Also, if the well had first sales on the 21st, but the company cuts their checks on the 20th, it won’t show up in that month’s check. Waiting about eight months works for me and then I send the certified letter. They will pay up eventually and I don’t mind 12% interest adding up.
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### Author:  [@TODD\_M\_Baker](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/TODD_M_Baker)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/10 "2020-07-15T03:27:01Z")
Royalty owners are paid monthly, so interest is 1% per month, compounded yearly. If not paid in the first 6 months, then the interest goes back to first production or sales, as some like to say. This is based on marketable title.
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### Author:  [@Bud](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Bud)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/11 "2020-07-15T16:33:33Z")
Be sure and not use the Division Order sent by the company. They try to change your Deduction Terms from your lease. Use the one recommended on this forum.
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### Author:  [@Bud](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Bud)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/12 "2020-07-15T16:33:50Z")
Just received (last month) DO and first check from an EOG well with first sale in Feb 2019. They are WAY behind. This month the interest on that late payment was received. I did send a certified letter asking for interest - as those on here recommend. 12% is nice to get…
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### Author:  [@Richard\_Winblad](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Richard_Winblad)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/13 "2020-07-16T21:05:00Z")
Use the one recommended on this forum.
Better yet, use no form in Oklahoma as it is not required. Still get their proposed form to check their math.
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### Author:  [@graceful99](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/graceful99)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/14 "2020-07-16T23:37:06Z")
What does that mean “Use no form in Oklahoma as it is not required”?
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### Author:  [@TODD\_M\_Baker](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/TODD_M_Baker)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/15 "2020-07-17T00:19:24Z")
You don’t have to send in a Division Order in Oklahoma to be paid revenue. Provide the operator an executed W-9 form and they are obligated to pay you.
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### Author:  [@graceful99](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/graceful99)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/16 "2020-07-17T02:02:52Z")
Where do I find the Division Order form on this site that you guys recommend to use?
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### Author:  [@M\_Barnes](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/M_Barnes)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/17 "2020-07-17T13:11:11Z")
For Oklahoma. You may use the NADOA form (attached) or you can use a letter with your name, address, well name, confirming the decimal amount of 0.xxxx and the statement that no terms of the lease are to be changed. Turn in your W-9. That is what they really need. [0\_NADOA\_Division Order Model Blank Form 2017v 2.pdf](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/uploads/short-url/uRmnfGoihWdncmA4XOWL8MczSaZ.pdf) (78.2 KB)
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### Author:  [@graceful99](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/graceful99)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/18 "2020-07-23T04:00:24Z")
So, I am supposed to figure the decimal amount and check that it is the same as what they figured?
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### Author:  [@M\_Barnes](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/M_Barnes)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/19 "2020-07-23T13:39:13Z")
Yes. The formula is: net acres/actual spacing acres x royalty x % perforations in your section.
Note: if your section is on the northern tier (sec 1-6) or western tier (6,7,18,19,30,31), then the sections are not exactly 640 acres and you have to use the exact acreage for those. It can be found on the Bureau of Land Management site. [Search - BLM GLO Records](https://glorecords.blm.gov/search/default.aspx)
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### Author:  [@graceful99](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/graceful99)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/no-division-order-yet/58138/20 "2020-08-11T23:21:42Z")
Still no division order. Has anyone had experience with Camino? Will the first royalty check take months to be issued? Seems like six months should be enough time to do this paperwork, even under current conditions.
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