# Need help on mineral rights lease offer
**URL:** https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/need-help-on-mineral-rights-lease-offer/64256
**Category:** Tyler County, WV
**Created:** [December 18, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/need-help-on-mineral-rights-lease-offer/64256 "2021-12-18T00:49:52Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@Cheryl22](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Cheryl22)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/need-help-on-mineral-rights-lease-offer/64256/1 "2021-12-18T00:49:52Z")
Hi. I’m new and have a question. I live out of state so am not familiar with mineral rights leases. I was offered a lease today for mineral rights to 14 plus acres in Ellsworth, Tyler county. The offer is 1250.00 per acre sign bonus and 14.5 royalty. Is this a fair offer? Thank you in advance for your time!
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### Author:  [@Debra\_Deby\_Bretz](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Debra_Deby_Bretz)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/need-help-on-mineral-rights-lease-offer/64256/2 "2021-12-18T13:15:01Z")
If you were offered 14.5, that’s pretty good. May I ask if the offer came through Antero?
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### Author:  [@Cheryl22](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Cheryl22)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/need-help-on-mineral-rights-lease-offer/64256/3 "2021-12-18T13:34:30Z")
Yes it came from Antero yesterday in a pdf with hard copy being maiked
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### Author:  [@Nick\_C](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Nick_C)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/need-help-on-mineral-rights-lease-offer/64256/4 "2021-12-18T13:59:07Z")
The issue that everyone doesn’t understand is that Antero is giving you 14% on royalty, but if you read your royalty clause in the lease, you as the Lessor is giving the Lessee the right to take post-production out of your royalty. So after Antero deducted those fees, your really getting 6.5 to 7% royalty.
**Cheryl22-** You need to negotiate the lease. Ask the landman for 14% Gross at the wellhead, to not take these fees. $1250 an acre is very low for Tyler County. I would negotiate $5000 an acre. You will also want to get the General Warranty out of the lease. See if Antero will give you a depth clause, Pugh Clause, Hold Harmless Clause, better Shut-in clause, etc… This is why you should always have an attorney review the lease. The lease is made to benefit Antero, NOT you!
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### Author:  [@Cheryl22](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Cheryl22)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/need-help-on-mineral-rights-lease-offer/64256/5 "2021-12-18T14:16:13Z")
Thank you so much for this information. I left a message at a law firm and hope to hear back Monday. I truly appreciate your time.
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### Author:  [@DT11](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/DT11)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/need-help-on-mineral-rights-lease-offer/64256/6 "2021-12-20T22:29:02Z")
If they are offering 14.5 then you should be able to get at least a little more. 15% was a standard with 12.5% the minimum when we signed leases a few years back. Times are different now and the companies are not as giving. Gross at the wellhead with no deductions as was stated is best. If you google oil/gas leases on what to have in a lease, you can see what to ask for and what needs to be deleted. Do not sign a standard lease. Those benefit the company. Things all depend on how much you own too. The more you own the more leverage you have. Have them tell you what % of the whole tract you own and how many heirs there are in that whole tract.
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### Author:  [@Cheryl22](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Cheryl22)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/need-help-on-mineral-rights-lease-offer/64256/7 "2021-12-20T22:35:25Z")
118.5 acres total. 25% owned by myself and brother-in-law whom no one can find. Lease to me is for 14.81250 acres.
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### Author:  [@Khaled\_Helmi](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Khaled_Helmi)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/need-help-on-mineral-rights-lease-offer/64256/8 "2021-12-23T17:30:23Z")
@Cheryl22 what state are you located in?
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### Author:  [@myers0920](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/myers0920)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/need-help-on-mineral-rights-lease-offer/64256/9 "2022-01-26T22:33:27Z")
I live in Ohio, Mahoning County.
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### Author:  [@system](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/need-help-on-mineral-rights-lease-offer/64256/10 "2022-03-18T00:50:31Z")
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