# Mineral Deed after sale of surface rights
**URL:** https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/mineral-deed-after-sale-of-surface-rights/68811
**Category:** Ownership and Title
**Created:** [November 27, 2022, 10:21pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/mineral-deed-after-sale-of-surface-rights/68811 "2022-11-27T22:21:53Z")
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### Author:  [@jimvau](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/jimvau)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2022, 10:21pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/mineral-deed-after-sale-of-surface-rights/68811/1 "2022-11-27T22:21:53Z")
Getting ready to list property for sale (surface only) in Section 20, Township 3N, Range 12E, Pittsburg County, Oklahoma. I assume a Mineral Deed will need to be filed with the County Clerk’s office to preserve ownership of the minerals. I have seen Mineral Deeds transferring ownership from one individual to another and from an individual to a trust, but neither seem appropriate for this situation. The land was from my grandmother’s estate in 1960 so there are several people involved. Haven’t determined if we are joint tenants or tenants in common yet. Abstract is being pulled. Anybody have any experience in this? I would expect the Title Company would/should do this, but I want to educate myself before going to closing if we get a contract and go to closing. The property has been constant production (gas) since the late 60’s.
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### Author:  [@M\_Barnes](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/M_Barnes)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/mineral-deed-after-sale-of-surface-rights/68811/2 "2022-11-28T13:00:17Z")
Suggest that you get legal advice to make sure the transfer is done properly. Do not rely on just the title company. One wrong word on the deed can really change the intent.
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### Author:  [@spud](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/spud)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/mineral-deed-after-sale-of-surface-rights/68811/3 "2022-11-28T16:06:16Z")
Just reserve the minerals in the deed where the real property is sold. Any attorney, even for a title company, should be able to handle that easily. Be sure to express that will be the case in the listing/sales contract.
If you have any question that things are being done properly, consult your own attorney.
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### Author:  [@AimeeHess](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/AimeeHess)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/mineral-deed-after-sale-of-surface-rights/68811/4 "2022-11-28T21:56:56Z")
Ms. Barnes is correct: consult an attorney in your jurisdiction for the appropriate wording of the deed. Fee attorneys for title companies are not your attorney and don’t necessarily have expertise in mineral transactions. If it’s done wrong, you or your heirs may have an expensive mess to clean up later, and in some cases the error won’t be able to be remedied at all. While there are many good ones, I have cleaned up a number of transactions where the title attorney got it wrong. As a side note: neither attorneys nor non-attorneys should be giving legal advice in these communications.
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### Author:  [@jimvau](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/jimvau)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/mineral-deed-after-sale-of-surface-rights/68811/5 "2022-11-29T14:51:50Z")
Thanks for the responses.
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### Author:  [@Richard\_Winblad](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Richard_Winblad)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2022, 5:19pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/mineral-deed-after-sale-of-surface-rights/68811/6 "2022-11-29T17:19:02Z")
Generally, you would make sure that the listing agreement, purchase contract, and deed expressly state that this is a surface-only conveyance and that all oil, gas, and other minerals are being reserved to the seller.
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### Author:  [@jimvau](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/jimvau)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/mineral-deed-after-sale-of-surface-rights/68811/7 "2022-11-29T20:13:54Z")
Thanks for the info, Richard.
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### Author:  [@Larry\_W\_Love](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Larry_W_Love)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2022, 3:17am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/mineral-deed-after-sale-of-surface-rights/68811/8 "2022-12-01T03:17:11Z")
Legal advice from a real estate attorney that has O&G experience is a must. It is easier if you are retaining all the minerals. There are other ones besides oil or gas.
Title companies in Texas generally avoid O&G title work. I do not know about OK. You also need to pin down how everyone holds their inherited titles. This is not a Google mineral deed search, cut and paste operation. Others have said it - one misplaced/misused word or comma can make a big difference.
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### Author:  [@jimvau](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/jimvau)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/mineral-deed-after-sale-of-surface-rights/68811/10 "2022-12-01T15:05:53Z")
I provided your contact info to the family member handling the sale.
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### Author:  [@system](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2023, 10:22pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/mineral-deed-after-sale-of-surface-rights/68811/11 "2023-02-25T22:22:27Z")
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