# Logan County, OK - Oil & Gas Discussion archives
**URL:** https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427
**Category:** Logan County, OK
**Created:** [June 19, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427 "2011-06-19T03:10:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 38
### Author:  [@Daniel](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Daniel)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2575 "2013-02-07T18:35:00Z")
Any word on Slawson’s spud date in 7-17N-3W?
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### Author:  [@system](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2576 "2013-02-07T18:43:00Z")
the bull dozier coming out ,nextn week 17n-3w,s20
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### Author:  [@Ron\_McKenzie](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Ron_McKenzie)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2577 "2013-02-07T19:01:00Z")
Virginia, I don’t think I’m answering your question, if I can. I have been told that when they drill more than one well per pad or section to picture a pack of hot dogs when thinking about how they want the laterals to run to drain the shale formation and that it will take several laterals per section to drain the shale formation. Some shale formations will need an upper and lower lateral to drain the formation. Are you talking about a certain tract I might look up and see what is going on?
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### Author:  [@Virginia\_Pflum](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Virginia_Pflum)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2013, 9:52pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2578 "2013-02-07T21:52:00Z")
I was trying to add what types of fracking is available. I have heard that a company has been able to frack as far away as 1/4 miles in the right kind of shale. I don’t have proof of this, but they are using a lot of different types nowadays and it’s going future. Also, some of it bad for our animals. It’s the same thing that is in spay and I can’t think of it’s name, but I know we have to buy it with our licenses.
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### Author:  [@Harley\_Baade](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Harley_Baade)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2579 "2013-02-07T16:48:00Z")
I have noticed a couple of instances in 17N 3W where Permit to Drill have been issued where they start at the edge of a section and go across the road completing at the far side of the next section. SEE API 08324041 and API 08324056. Does anybody understand this? Most stay within a 640-acre Section.
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### Author:  [@Virginia\_Pflum](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Virginia_Pflum)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2580 "2013-02-07T17:43:00Z")
Ron,
When you are talking about Multiunit Horizontal wells, it’s still my understanding they are still spaced on 640 and not on 1280. Am I wrong on this? I understand that the well only pays to the people who are under the 640 well even if it’s going in two different directions.
Also, you may be able to answer this for me. I understand that the Mississippian runs east and west and that is why the wells run north and south. So, if you wanted to put a well down and have it run east and west in the Mississippian or Cleveland or Wilcox, would it do any good?
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### Author:  [@Ron\_McKenzie](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Ron_McKenzie)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2581 "2013-02-07T18:01:00Z")
Yes on the section B
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### Author:  [@Virginia\_Pflum](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Virginia_Pflum)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2582 "2013-02-07T18:26:00Z")
Ron,
My last question.
Let’s say you want to drill a Mississippian and you go to the north side of the property and drill south. If I’m not mistaken, the Mississippian runs east and west, so you have a greater chance of hitting a good well.
Now, you have a lease on 2 farms but they are east and west of each other in the section. You get an exception on spacing for 320 acres, so you drill. The well is drilled from the west property (160) to the east property (160). I have been told that only a few sands could produce in this kind of a well. Yet I see 4 wells in 1 pad, I assume they are going 4 different directions.
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### Author:  [@system](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2583 "2013-02-07T18:43:00Z")
sw 1/4
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### Author:  [@Ron\_McKenzie](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Ron_McKenzie)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2584 "2013-02-07T20:16:00Z")
Permit but no spud on 7-17N-3W.
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### Author:  [@Ron\_McKenzie](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Ron_McKenzie)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2585 "2013-02-07T20:39:00Z")
ronald here is one for you
[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228110/Irish-company-U-S-Oil-Gas-drilling-Nevada-sitting-187million-oil-barrels.html#axzz2KGsks0fR](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228110/Irish-company-U-S-Oil-Gas-drilling-Nevada-sitting-187million-oil-barrels.html#axzz2KGsks0fR)
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### Author:  [@Virginia\_Pflum](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Virginia_Pflum)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2586 "2013-02-07T21:46:00Z")
ADDITIVE TYPE DESCRIPTION OF PURPOSE EXAMPLES OF CHEMICALS
Proppant “Props” open fractures and allows gas/fluids to flow more freely to the well bore. Sand [Sintered bauxite; zirconium oxide; ceramic beads]
Acid Cleans up perforation intervals of cement and drilling mud prior to fracturing fluid injection, and provides accessible path to formation. Hydrochloric acid (HCl, 3% to 28%) or muriatic acid
Breaker Reduces the viscosity of the fluid in order to release proppant into fractures and enhance the recovery of the fracturing fluid. Peroxydisulfates
Bactericide / Biocide Inhibits growth of organisms that could produce gases (particularly hydrogen sulfide) that could contaminate methane gas. Also prevents the growth of bacteria which can reduce the ability of the fluid to carry proppant into the fractures. Gluteraldehyde; 2-Bromo-2-nitro-1,2-propanediol
Buffer / pH Adjusting Agent Adjusts and controls the pH of the fluid in order to maximize the effectiveness of other additives such as crosslinkers. Sodium or potassium carbonate; acetic acid
Clay Stabilizer / Control Prevents swelling and migration of formation clays which could block pore spaces thereby reducing permeability. Salts (e.g., tetramethyl ammonium chloride) [Potassium chloride]
Corrosion Inhibitor Reduces rust formation on steel tubing, well casings, tools, and tanks (used only in fracturing fluids that contain acid). Methanol; ammonium bisulfate for Oxygen Scavengers
Crosslinker The fluid viscosity is increased using phosphate esters combined with metals. The metals are referred to as crosslinking agents. The increased fracturing fluid viscosity allows the fluid to carry more proppant into the fractures. Potassium hydroxide; borate salts
Friction Reducer Allows fracture fluids to be injected at optimum rates and pressures by minimizing friction. Sodium acrylate-acrylamide copolymer; polyacrylamide (PAM); petroleum distillates
Gelling Agent Increases fracturing fluid viscosity, allowing the fluid to carry more proppant into the fractures. Guar gum; petroleum distillate
Iron Control Prevents the precipitation of carbonates and sulfates (calcium carbonate, calcium sulfate, barium sulfate) which could plug off the formation. Ammonium chloride; ethylene glycol; polyacrylate
Solvent Additive which is soluble in oil, water & acid-based treatment fluids which is used to control the wettability of contact surfaces or to prevent or break emulsions. Various aromatic hydrocarbons
Surfactant Reduces fracturing fluid surface tension thereby aiding fluid recovery. Methanol; isopropanol; ethoxylated alcohol
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### Author:  [@Harley\_Baade](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Harley_Baade)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2587 "2013-02-08T16:20:00Z")
At what point in the process do leaseholders become aware of what is happening?
Spacing, permitting, drilling, completion, production.
How do the leaseholders learn about it?
My impression is: Not until production time when they receive a Production Agreement seeking a signature associated with the amount of their acreage.
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### Author:  [@Harley\_Baade](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Harley_Baade)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2588 "2013-02-08T18:42:00Z")
I do not know what a Division Order is.
I found a document in my Mother’s stuff from 1997.
The Heading is “Voluntary Production Unit Agreement”.
It lists all the Formation levels.
Then the Owners, Acres, Interest. In this instance, the acres were 160 and the Interest added up to 100%.
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### Author:  [@Vern\_James](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Vern_James)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2589 "2013-02-08T23:56:00Z")
Harley, a Division Order sets forth the proportional ownership in produced hydrocarbons, including crude oil, natural gas, and NGLs. More often than not, a single well or lease will have multiple owners. It’s not uncommon to have hundreds of parties owning an interest in a single well. A Division Order is generally received by a mineral rights owner through the mail within 3 to 4 months after well completion.
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### Author:  [@ronald\_von\_wilson](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/ronald_von_wilson)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2013, 11:23am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2590 "2013-02-08T11:23:00Z")
Thanx Ron McdK, I know a couple chorus girls in Vegas so I will get my expense pad out and go check this out. 🙂 My only concern is being a Scot of the Arbuthnot Clan, I know better than to believe everything my friends on the Emerald Isle tell me.
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### Author:  [@Catherine\_M\_Koenke](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Catherine_M_Koenke)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2591 "2013-02-08T12:59:00Z")
17 hours ago db said something about a dozer coming out of Section 20. Then immediately
17 hours ago, db posted that a dozer was coming out of Section 20. Then immediately, he added “SW 1/4”. Does all of that go together and the dozer was leaving Section 20 from the SW 1/4? My interest is in the North 1/2 section and that’s close enough for me.
17 hours ago, db posted that a dozer was leaving Section 20. Then immediately he added “SW 1/4”. Does all of that go together and he means the dozer was leaving Section 20 from the “SW 1/4”? My interest is in the North 1/2 section and that’s close enough for me.
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### Author:  [@ronald\_von\_wilson](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/ronald_von_wilson)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2592 "2013-02-08T17:31:00Z")
Claude, this is the last one
20 17N 3W///location s/well site, work
Maybe a response to “does that mean beginning or ending something?” S being South maybe? Hence, South well site, to work? I dunno. It also said “Next week…” I plan on sleeping all weekend…LOL
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### Author:  [@Harley\_Baade](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Harley_Baade)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2013, 12:42am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2593 "2013-02-09T00:42:00Z")
Vern, the Osage Presentation clarifies a lot. Thanks so much. Looks like about half of the 2013 wells are pinned down. Is that what you see?
Also thanks for Division Order explanation.
I have another IWIK [I wish I knew], I am located in NW/4, 9-17N-3W and leased to Devon. Cousins did too. About 80 acres total. Osage has the rest of the Section.
What is the impact of Devon leases, if any?
So far, I think, there are pads in SW/4 of 9, SE/4 of 8 and SW/4 of 3. All could reach under Section 9.
Who sleeps these days?
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### Author:  [@Ron\_McKenzie](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Ron_McKenzie)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/2594 "2013-02-08T16:34:00Z")
Everyone leased or unleased should get notice of any spacing or location exception that may be filed. Pooling info would go to unleased owners. Daily drilling reports, completion & production information before the checks come out would go to Working Interest Owners.
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