# Logan County, OK - Oil & Gas Discussion archives
**URL:** https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427
**Category:** Logan County, OK
**Created:** [June 19, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427 "2011-06-19T03:10:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 167
### Author:  [@Ron\_McKenzie](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Ron_McKenzie)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5178 "2014-05-24T15:24:00Z")
[http://geo.ou.edu/MapsFrame.htm](http://geo.ou.edu/MapsFrame.htm)
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### Author:  [@Jo\_Anne\_Gillespie](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Jo_Anne_Gillespie)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2014, 11:41am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5179 "2014-05-26T11:41:00Z")
I have just received a lease offer from Lowery Land 35-15N-4W $200/A 1/8. 3yr $150/A. 3/16. 3 yr Does anyone have information on this?
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### Author:  [@Jo\_Anne\_Gillespie](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Jo_Anne_Gillespie)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5180 "2014-05-26T16:34:00Z")
Hi Ron! Do you know what other companies are leasing there? It really does seem low.
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### Author:  [@Robert\_Brian](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Robert_Brian)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2014, 9:32am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5181 "2014-05-27T09:32:00Z")
It appears that Devon is now managing their production rates more closely. My well came on at 600 bbls per day while flaring the gas. As soon as the gas was being sold, they dropped the rate to 300 bbls per day. It stayed at that rate for 5 months. Now they have dropped the rate to 150 bbls per day exactly. My educated guess is that they are seeing a breakdown of the fracs flowing the wells at maximum pump rates, and they have figured out that they get more oil in the long run by flowing the wells slowly. What I mean when I say the “fracs breaking down,” is that when flowing a well as hard as they can, the frac sand comes out of the fracs with the oil and water, and the fractures slowly close, losing permeability. Thus, the life of the frac job diminishes more rapidly. I expect to see the Mississippi wells flowed more slowly from the beginning, and future cement squeezes, re-fracs, acid jobs, and new frac jobs being performed on these wells. With 5000 ft horizontals, there is plenty of room to squeeze off the poorer performing zones, and move down the lateral and re-frac. They could also just do another frac, (put more frac sand in the existing fracs). For those who have seen their production rates drop off significantly, it is clear that Devon is managing their flow rates now by slowing down their downhole pumps. In the long run the well will reach equilibrium, where the in-flow equals the production rate, and the well will stabilize at that rate. I would like to ask what the inflow of the Mississippi well would be? The last I heard was 60 acres. If so, does that indicate that there would be maybe 3 Mississippi wells per 640 acre unit? What about the Woodford formation? Does anyone know what the inflow is on these wells? Is it more or less than the Mississippi?
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### Author:  [@M\_Barnes](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/M_Barnes)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5182 "2014-05-26T17:15:00Z")
Jo Anne,
That part of Logan is not in the main Miss Lime or Woodford, so those lease terms are about right for gas. Actually about $50-100 higher than last time I looked. The most recent nearby pooling was in 2012. If it is the first offer, you might be able to get a bit higher, but not much.
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### Author:  [@Jo\_Anne\_Gillespie](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Jo_Anne_Gillespie)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2014, 5:47pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5183 "2014-05-26T17:47:00Z")
m, thank you for the info.
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### Author:  [@Robert\_Brian](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Robert_Brian)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2014, 9:14am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5184 "2014-05-27T09:14:00Z")
I sold drilling water for 125 per day to Devon. We couldn’t come to terms on frac water, so I wouldn’t sell for 22 cents per bbl. Too cheap during a drought. Another issue is the pipes they lay on your property to transport the frac water. They don’t have a right to do that. You own your property out to the middle of the road. The only easements are for the county road and power companies. Any oil company needs to get your permission to lay temporary piping on your property. Many of my neighbors have told them to move it to the other side of the road. I imagine you could also negotiate a price for that if you wanted to.
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### Author:  [@Martha\_McMorries](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Martha_McMorries)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2014, 1:07pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5185 "2014-05-27T13:07:00Z")
Robert, You are right, the shale has low permeability, so it’s best to frac the shale as much as you can around the well bore. You need to expose a lot of the shale to the pressure drop to get the gas flowing and the natural pressures of the gas shale reservoirs will not decline that much as long as you keep the fractures open. Like you, I’m guessing the initial pressure drops are from the fractures closing and not depletion. Devon’s probably trying to figure out the best distribution and placement of proppant to keep the fractures open. In this case the bigger the reservoir the better, so you can have a pressure problems due to size of reservoir. Most of our family’s wells are in SE OK, so it’s been my playground and it’s a little different than Logan/Payne. However, I know some operators are discussing tri laterals in the Miss for our area, as it’s proved most successful in the Bakken lime. Here’s an article from Schlumberger, but it’s mainly about the Arkoma in SE OK, so I need to do some research and get back to you. [http://www.slb.com/~/media/Files/dcs/industry\_articles/200903\_aog\_woodford\_wells.ashx](http://www.slb.com/~/media/Files/dcs/industry_articles/200903_aog_woodford_wells.ashx)
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### Author:  [@Martha\_McMorries](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Martha_McMorries)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2014, 1:13pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5186 "2014-05-27T13:13:00Z")
Sir Ron Von, I will help you, if time allows. My duties in life are many and thousands and heaps!
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### Author:  [@M\_Barnes](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/M_Barnes)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5187 "2014-05-27T16:59:00Z")
J Layman, the completion is not listed quite yet. It can take a couple of months to make the public documents.
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### Author:  [@M\_Barnes](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/M_Barnes)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5188 "2014-05-27T17:01:00Z")
I am attending the Woodford conference in OKC this Thursday so maybe I will hear some exact numbers for comparison. This area is about a year behind the multi well drilling in SCOOP and CANA Woodfords area where they are getting six-ten wells per section in the Woodford.
Martha Barnes
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### Author:  [@Martha\_McMorries](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Martha_McMorries)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2014, 4:57pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5189 "2014-05-27T16:57:00Z")
Robert, guessing 80-85 acres for the Woodford and 60 acres for Miss Lime. M. Barnes will know Logan/Payne area better than me.
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### Author:  [@J\_Layman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/J_Layman)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5190 "2014-05-27T16:21:00Z")
I was wondering if anyone can tell me anything about the production of Sparks Section 24-18N-2W. It was drilled on 30-18N-1W in Payne County. It was fracked about the first of March I believe. Thanks.
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### Author:  [@ronald\_von\_wilson](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/ronald_von_wilson)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5191 "2014-05-27T18:22:00Z")
Thank you Martha, I know what you mean. I finished this music recording school here in Orlando last July, so that is when I get started seriously. Liz, you are in financial luck, I love Fuddruckers on W. Broad.
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### Author:  [@Liz](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Liz)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2014, 10:09pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5192 "2014-05-27T22:09:00Z")
Fudruckers is gone, torn down and now it is Buz and Ned’s BBQ.
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### Author:  [@Martha\_McMorries](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Martha_McMorries)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2014, 11:52am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5193 "2014-05-28T11:52:00Z")
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### Author:  [@Martha\_McMorries](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Martha_McMorries)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2014, 11:50am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5194 "2014-05-28T11:50:00Z")
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### Author:  [@Liz](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Liz)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2014, 7:44am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5195 "2014-05-29T07:44:00Z")
I know it was a great restaurant. I will have to travel to your neck of the woods to experience. Thanks for the information. Having fun in all of this rain? LOL
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### Author:  [@Amy\_Falls](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Amy_Falls)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5196 "2014-05-28T23:27:00Z")
We still have Fudruckers up here in Northern Virginia area and I remember back in the 80’s when I could buy a dog treat, a femur or such like, for a couple of bucks to take home to Fido. The money went to help animal rescue and adoption centers. Good burgers there.
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### Author:  [@ronald\_von\_wilson](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/ronald_von_wilson)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2014, 8:07am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/logan-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1427/5197 "2014-05-29T08:07:00Z")
I did not know of Fuddruckers closing. Boo hoo. But I heard another place, where I discussed Logan County wells to stay on subject, LOL the 2 BBQs just 4 or 5 blocks apart on Broad, closed. Is that right? I deciphered a lot of Logan County Landmen’s information over some good baby backs.
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