# Garfield County, OK - Oil & Gas Discussion archives
**URL:** https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330
**Category:** Garfield County, OK
**Created:** [August 31, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330 "2011-08-31T03:01:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 21
### Author:  [@Ron\_McKenzie](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Ron_McKenzie)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2014, 9:06am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/821 "2014-04-15T09:06:00Z")
Bob, they have a spacing hearing set for 4/29/14 for Section 2. Here are two poolings next to you.
[http://imaging.occeweb.com/AP/Orders/occ5093113.pdf](http://imaging.occeweb.com/AP/Orders/occ5093113.pdf)
[http://imaging.occeweb.com/AP/Orders/occ5081774.pdf](http://imaging.occeweb.com/AP/Orders/occ5081774.pdf)
Here are completion reports for wells around you.
[http://imaging.occeweb.com/OG/Well%20Records/1DD065DC.pdf](http://imaging.occeweb.com/OG/Well%20Records/1DD065DC.pdf)
[http://imaging.occeweb.com/OG/Well%20Records/1DD0CFFE.pdf](http://imaging.occeweb.com/OG/Well%20Records/1DD0CFFE.pdf)
[http://imaging.occeweb.com/OG/Well%20Records/1DD15178.pdf](http://imaging.occeweb.com/OG/Well%20Records/1DD15178.pdf)
[http://imaging.occeweb.com/OG/Well%20Records/1DD15184.pdf](http://imaging.occeweb.com/OG/Well%20Records/1DD15184.pdf)
[http://imaging.occeweb.com/OG/Well%20Records/1DD1517D.pdf](http://imaging.occeweb.com/OG/Well%20Records/1DD1517D.pdf)
Martha is right about third party giving more with wells like that around you. Also watch terms of your lease.
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### Author:  [@r\_w\_kennedy](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/r_w_kennedy)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2014, 9:21am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/822 "2014-04-15T09:21:00Z")
Mr. Rodenberg, that is one of the milder lies poor landmen tell.
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### Author:  [@system](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/823 "2014-04-15T14:53:00Z")
I like the one that goes “don’t worry we will figure out the surface damages later. We never have messed up a site”. I wonder how many fingers they have crossed when they say that!
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### Author:  [@system](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2014, 9:03am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/824 "2014-04-15T09:03:00Z")
Yes isn’t it wonderful that they tell you anything to get you to sign…
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### Author:  [@Bob\_Garrett](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Bob_Garrett)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 1:25pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/825 "2014-04-16T13:25:00Z")
Daniel, I only have 2 acres in 2-20N-4W. Blue Star is offering $400 per acre bonus and 3/16ths.
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### Author:  [@Mineral\_Steve](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Mineral_Steve)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/826 "2014-04-16T14:51:00Z")
Bob, double that might be a good starting point.
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### Author:  [@Daniel](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Daniel)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 7:40pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/827 "2014-04-16T19:40:00Z")
Martha, that is not completely true. The operator is required to call other companies that have taken leases in the Section before the pooling order is issued and obtain “value checks” to see what others have paid for lease bonuses in the Section and offsetting Sections. The landman from the operator then must testify as to what $ amount bonuses have been paid. Yes, the pooling order terms can be much lower, but not always.
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### Author:  [@Robert\_Gholston](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Robert_Gholston)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/828 "2014-04-16T20:59:00Z")
I found that letter; It’s Blue Star on behalf of Devon and they propose to drill a +/-11,000’ Woodford Horizontal well in Section 2-20N-4W Payne County with a surface location in Section 3-20N-4W Payne County. $400.00 plus 18.75%. I thought it was in Garfield County. That’s how much attention I paid to it. This is the third mineral issue to have popped up in the last three years or so and we had no idea that we had them. There are not that many acres involved between 4 of us, but still.
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### Author:  [@Daniel](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Daniel)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 8:24am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/829 "2014-04-16T08:24:00Z")
Bob Garrett, how many acres do you have in 2-20N-4W? I recently leased to a third party for favorable terms. I’d much rather lease to smaller companies with better terms and lease provisions. They seem much easier to work with.
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### Author:  [@Robert\_Gholston](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Robert_Gholston)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 9:31am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/830 "2014-04-16T09:31:00Z")
Daniel, I can’t find my letter right now, but it seems like it’s either $300.00 OR $350.00 per acre, which seems to be the favorite starting point of most of these folks.
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### Author:  [@Daniel](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Daniel)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 8:43am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/831 "2014-04-16T08:43:00Z")
What is BlueStar offering in 20N-4W?
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### Author:  [@Martha\_McMorries](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Martha_McMorries)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 9:44am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/832 "2014-04-16T09:44:00Z")
There will be many more wells drilled and they will last longer than you expect. Continuous petroleum accumulation is a hard concept to imagine, but it will sustain production for decades. Also, enhanced secondary oil recovery is becoming the norm, with new techniques being developed right now, so I will not lease for less than 1/4 and the best bonus possible. A darn good lease is a must-have too.
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### Author:  [@Ron\_McKenzie](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Ron_McKenzie)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/833 "2014-04-16T14:00:00Z")
Daniel, here is the pooling for Section 3. You should get no less than this.
[http://imaging.occeweb.com/AP/Orders/occ5093113.pdf](http://imaging.occeweb.com/AP/Orders/occ5093113.pdf)
Agree to nothing until you see terms of lease.
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### Author:  [@Martha\_McMorries](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Martha_McMorries)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 9:33pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/834 "2014-04-16T21:33:00Z")
Daniel, We are leasing for 1/4 in many different areas where the pooling orders are showing no more than 3/16ths. I’ve been told third parties do not have to participate in value checks unless they are bonded.
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### Author:  [@Martha\_McMorries](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Martha_McMorries)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 3:06pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/835 "2014-04-16T15:06:00Z")
OCC Pooling orders will only take into consideration what the operating company (Devon) has given for leases. Third party leases are not considered, so the pooling order does not reflect such.
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### Author:  [@Robert\_Gholston](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Robert_Gholston)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/836 "2014-04-16T21:15:00Z")
I just noticed that right under my name and address on the letter from Blue Star, is this; D. Smith 2-20N-4W 1WH
Section 2-20N-4W
Garfield County, OK
Now I’m a little confused once again.
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### Author:  [@Ron\_McKenzie](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Ron_McKenzie)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/837 "2014-04-16T21:47:00Z")
I have been called by landmen getting ready for pooling hearings for information on interest I have leased and I am not bonded. I have been told that they don’t list leases that have been taken after the pooling application has been filed.
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### Author:  [@Martha\_McMorries](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Martha_McMorries)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2014, 9:59pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/838 "2014-04-16T21:59:00Z")
Thanks Ron, Another legal issue for me to check out.
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### Author:  [@Ron\_McKenzie](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Ron_McKenzie)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 8:39am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/839 "2014-04-18T08:39:00Z")
I don’t know of any information on when they start fracking on OCC.
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### Author:  [@Bob\_Hunter](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Bob_Hunter)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 10:29am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/garfield-county-ok-oil-gas-discussion-archives/1330/840 "2014-04-18T10:29:00Z")
If you mean pooling, it depends upon what your lease says.
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