# Downside to not leasing?
**URL:** https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/downside-to-not-leasing/64082
**Category:** Stephens County, OK
**Created:** [November 29, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/downside-to-not-leasing/64082 "2021-11-29T22:26:49Z")
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### Author:  [@JDrig](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/JDrig)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/downside-to-not-leasing/64082/1 "2021-11-29T22:26:49Z")
What are the downsides of not leasing prior to drilling other than missing out on the Bonus. Is there a a chance that the royalty will be lower than 3/16ths if the section is force pooled?
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### Author:  [@M\_Barnes](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/M_Barnes)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/downside-to-not-leasing/64082/2 "2021-11-30T20:52:03Z")
Forced pooling usually has a selection of options which are supposed to be the equivalent of the best offers that the operator has made in the section and the eight surrounding sections in the last year. So usually, there is a bonus with at least one of them. I see leases filed for 1/8th, 3/16ths, 1/5th, 22% and 1/4th, so you are likely to see a subset of those on the pooling. At this time, no pooling case is posted.
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### Author:  [@JoeBrent1](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/JoeBrent1)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2022, 4:04am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/downside-to-not-leasing/64082/3 "2022-01-03T04:04:16Z")
Some get more than a 1/4 on these directional, I have been told this. I will not lease for less than a quarter.
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### Author:  [@Christine\_Putnam](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Christine_Putnam)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/downside-to-not-leasing/64082/4 "2022-01-03T16:13:09Z")
My issue with being pooled is that, without a lease, the operator is free to rake our portion of the proceeds for deductions to their heart’s content. We’ve had as much as 52% taken in deductions in the past on a force-pooled property. 😡
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### Author:  [@M\_Barnes](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/M_Barnes)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2022, 4:21pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/downside-to-not-leasing/64082/5 "2022-01-03T16:21:04Z")
There is a variety of opinions on the deductions by pooling. In the past, all poolings were gross with the only deductions allowed as taxes which everyone has to pay. Some are more aggressive in their wording and try to get away with more post production charges. Some attorneys are of the opinion that poolings are still a gross payment (except for taxes) with no PPC allowed. Others think they must abide by the terms of the Mittelstaedt case.
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### Author:  [@system](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/downside-to-not-leasing/64082/6 "2022-02-27T22:27:08Z")
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