# Do gas royalties count as earned income when receiving SS at 62
**URL:** https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/do-gas-royalties-count-as-earned-income-when-receiving-ss-at-62/74123
**Category:** Accounting and Taxes
**Created:** [February 3, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/do-gas-royalties-count-as-earned-income-when-receiving-ss-at-62/74123 "2024-02-03T23:09:00Z")
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### Author:  [@Capray](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Capray)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/do-gas-royalties-count-as-earned-income-when-receiving-ss-at-62/74123/1 "2024-02-03T23:09:01Z")
Do royalties count as income when getting Social Security at 62?
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### Author:  [@TODD\_M\_Baker](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/TODD_M_Baker)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2024, 11:43am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/do-gas-royalties-count-as-earned-income-when-receiving-ss-at-62/74123/2 "2024-02-04T11:43:08Z")
Yes, income is income regardless of the source.
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### Author:  [@TennisDaze](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/TennisDaze)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2024, 11:43am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/do-gas-royalties-count-as-earned-income-when-receiving-ss-at-62/74123/3 "2024-02-04T11:43:14Z")
Oil and gas royalties are not earned income. You receive a 1099-MISC and you report the royalty income on Schedule E. If you own a working interest, then that income will be reported on 1099-NEC and that is earned income to be reported on Schedule C.
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### Author:  [@Wendy1](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Wendy1)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/do-gas-royalties-count-as-earned-income-when-receiving-ss-at-62/74123/4 "2024-02-05T14:21:40Z")
So, I just asked my financial advisor this Thursday. He said to ask our tax guy for clarification. I want to know this also. Are y’all saying no? So if I claim Social Security, they will not take away a dollar for every two dollars that oil and gas royalties cause me to go over the max earned income allowed? That would be a game changer for me. I get conflicting answers from everyone I ask on this. I agree that it is not earned income. I did not work for it.
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### Author:  [@Jeffrey\_Yourkovich](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Jeffrey_Yourkovich)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/do-gas-royalties-count-as-earned-income-when-receiving-ss-at-62/74123/5 "2024-02-05T14:58:27Z")
Your Social Security benefit will not be reduced at all from gas and oil royalty income and does not count towards the max earned income limit. This is always the case. However, the royalty income may cause the Social Security benefits to be taxable income (up to 85% of the benefits). The earned income limit applies to wages and self-employment income only.
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### Author:  [@Wendy1](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Wendy1)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/do-gas-royalties-count-as-earned-income-when-receiving-ss-at-62/74123/6 "2024-02-05T15:46:25Z")
@Jeffrey_YourkovichThank you so much for an answer from a CPA. I’m ecstatic to know this…
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### Author:  [@Turfsurfer](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Turfsurfer)
#### Post date: [March 24, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/do-gas-royalties-count-as-earned-income-when-receiving-ss-at-62/74123/7 "2024-03-24T16:02:34Z")
I thought both capital gains and royalty income are included in MODIFIED Adjusted Gross Income when SS premiums are calculated.
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### Author:  [@Richard\_Winblad](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Richard_Winblad)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/do-gas-royalties-count-as-earned-income-when-receiving-ss-at-62/74123/8 "2024-03-26T14:42:47Z")
My understanding is that only earned wages are counted. Dividends and passive income don’t impact or cause Social Security penalties. But research further.
This post is not legal, tax or investment advice. Reading or responding to this post does not create an attorney/client relationship.
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### Author:  [@system](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/do-gas-royalties-count-as-earned-income-when-receiving-ss-at-62/74123/9 "2024-05-03T23:09:14Z")
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