# Can you help us
**URL:** https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998
**Category:** Tyler County, WV
**Created:** [June 12, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998 "2016-06-12T23:23:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Arlene\_Brinckman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Arlene_Brinckman)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/1 "2016-06-12T23:23:51Z")
Hello everyone my name is Arlene.
My siblings, in Pennsylvania, and I, in Missouri were contacted in April by a land lease company in Oklahoma City concerning apparent mineral rights we own in Tyler County, West Virginia. McElroy District (05); Tax Map 13; Parcel 11, 11.1, 11.2 and 12 of the G.W. McIntyre Farm. They issued a lease agreement with two options for choice and signature.
We are pleased to learn of this ownership, which dates back to our great grandmother Cora Weir. I have been designated to be research and negotiator for the three of us. I am in the dental profession; this is foreign ground for me.
Our initial contact has already moved onto a new project. Based on some of the posts I have read, I feel the two options given us may not be in our best interest.
Are there any among you who would be willing to mentor, share your knowledge, insight, opinion to help we novices? We feel overwhelmed and somewhat intimidated.
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### Author:  [@Elaine](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Elaine)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/2 "2016-06-12T23:31:34Z")
If you didn’t know anything about the mineral rights till now, who has been paying the taxes?
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### Author:  [@WV\_Mineral\_Owner](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/WV_Mineral_Owner)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/3 "2016-06-12T23:31:50Z")
Arlene,
I would suggest you hire a local West Virginia attorney to negotiate on your behalf. The production companies rely on ‘novices’ and have no hesitation to take advantage of them.
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### Author:  [@Larry\_thompson](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Larry_thompson)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/4 "2016-06-12T23:50:01Z")
I own mineral rights in Tyler County. 2 1/2 years ago negotiated $4200 per acre and 20% royalty. And they drilled wells, fracked last February. If I knew what is going on now there are two shale zones. I would talk to a lawyer, try to lease each zone separately. One of the oil companies paid to the West Virginia $12,000 on what they call the Bambi land.
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### Author:  [@Arlene\_Brinckman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Arlene_Brinckman)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/5 "2016-06-13T00:04:01Z")
Elaine, good question. I would not have considered this. What would you suggest?
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### Author:  [@Arlene\_Brinckman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Arlene_Brinckman)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/6 "2016-06-13T00:05:53Z")
Thank you for the suggestion. Anyone you can recommend?
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### Author:  [@Arlene\_Brinckman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Arlene_Brinckman)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/7 "2016-06-13T00:07:50Z")
Thank you Larry. I appreciate your response. Our offers were well below yours above.
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### Author:  [@WV\_Mineral\_Owner](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/WV_Mineral_Owner)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/8 "2016-06-13T00:08:45Z")
Arlene,
I will email you directly on this site, the name of someone I recommend. Please note, I am NOT an attorney, just happen to be happy with one that I use.
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### Author:  [@Arlene\_Brinckman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Arlene_Brinckman)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/9 "2016-06-13T00:15:03Z")
Thank you so much!
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### Author:  [@WV\_Mineral\_Owner](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/WV_Mineral_Owner)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/10 "2016-06-13T00:16:47Z")
Check your “Inbox” in the top right corner.
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### Author:  [@Arlene\_Brinckman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Arlene_Brinckman)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/11 "2016-06-13T00:28:24Z")
I am not getting anything.
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### Author:  [@Nancy\_Mosley](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Nancy_Mosley)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/12 "2016-06-13T00:47:29Z")
Arlene, [here](http://129.71.117.165/) is a link to the Tyler County online records. You can choose Tax records or Documents. I have been told that this works best with Internet Explorer as your web browser, and with Silverlight installed. If you go to Document inquiry, you will see a button on the top line at the right “Right Click.” If you right click on it, you have the chance to install a program to view the old records. You probably can find something on your relatives. This will give you a big picture view of the situation.
If you go to the Tax inquiry and choose D-Map-P and put in McElroy 13 11 you will see the owners of the surface of those parcels. Same with parcel 12. That may or may not be a relative.
There are lots of things to find out with this.
I echo WV Mineral Owner’s recommendation to consult with an attorney. I like to do my own preliminary research but it is usually a good idea to get an attorney involved when dealing with the oil and gas companies for a lease.
Please let me know if you need any help / suggestions using these databases.
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### Author:  [@Arlene\_Brinckman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Arlene_Brinckman)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/13 "2016-06-13T01:04:16Z")
Many thanks Nancy, I will keep you all informed as I find out information. This is a lot to digest, but I will keep digging.
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### Author:  [@Arlene\_Brinckman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Arlene_Brinckman)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/14 "2016-06-13T01:11:49Z")
I am guessing the market is different today than it was 2 1/2 years ago, could reflect the lower offer to us. I shall continue to dig in and figure it out.
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### Author:  [@WV\_Mineral\_Owner](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/WV_Mineral_Owner)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/15 "2016-06-13T01:32:44Z")
Arlene,
Nancy is a Goddess when it comes to this type of information, I cannot express how much she has helped me in the past. Of course I would never tell her that, I would hate for her ego to balloon. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Arlene\_Brinckman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Arlene_Brinckman)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/16 "2016-06-13T01:40:18Z")
Haaaaaaaaa!!! I did receive your information and am most pleased. This week will begin a new journey. I am adopting you and Nancy as my mentors!!! Will be in touch.
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### Author:  [@Nancy\_Mosley](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Nancy_Mosley)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/17 "2016-06-13T02:00:48Z")
My ego is safely in check because I know how much I still have to learn lol! Thanks WV Mineral Owner!
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### Author:  [@Nancy\_Mosley](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Nancy_Mosley)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/18 "2016-06-13T02:08:48Z")
You are right that the market is different, but it seems things are picking up lately. A good lawyer will have the experience dealing with the companies to know what is likely to be agreed to beyond the initial offer. They never start with their best offer of course.
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### Author:  [@Arlene\_Brinckman](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Arlene_Brinckman)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/19 "2016-06-13T03:41:58Z")
Thank you Nancy!! Have a great day tomorrow.
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### Author:  [@Carrie\_Brown](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Carrie_Brown)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/can-you-help-us/4998/20 "2016-06-14T00:02:18Z")
Arlene,
My three siblings and I are also owners via Bertie McIntyre Iman (one of Cora’s sisters) and my mother Evelyn Ressler (Inez’s daughter). Glad to find someone else looking into this. Are you on Facebook or is there a way I can contact you outside of the forum?
Thanks.
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