# Are sale values higher or lower if minerals are leased?
**URL:** https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/are-sale-values-higher-or-lower-if-minerals-are-leased/52725
**Category:** Grady County, OK
**Created:** [November 3, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/are-sale-values-higher-or-lower-if-minerals-are-leased/52725 "2019-11-03T13:15:05Z")
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### Author:  [@John\_Whitford](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/John_Whitford)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/are-sale-values-higher-or-lower-if-minerals-are-leased/52725/1 "2019-11-03T13:15:05Z")
A landman we’ve used in the past is saying that sale value is higher if property is NOT leased. I’m pretty sure I remember M. Barnes saying just the opposite. This landman is going to flip the leases so I’m wondering if that has some bearing on his comments.
jsw
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### Author:  [@TODD\_M\_Baker](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/TODD_M_Baker)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/are-sale-values-higher-or-lower-if-minerals-are-leased/52725/2 "2019-11-03T14:16:52Z")
JOHN - think of it as a percentage. If minerals are unleased, you own 100% of any future revenue stream. If the minerals are leased at 1/8th, you get 12.5%. If leased on 1/4, 25%. So minerals that aren’t leased are more valuable than leased. That is with all other factors being equal, i.e., location, past production, etc.
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### Author:  [@TODD\_M\_Baker](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/TODD_M_Baker)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/are-sale-values-higher-or-lower-if-minerals-are-leased/52725/3 "2019-11-03T14:20:00Z")
Error - so minerals that aren’t leased are more valuable than leased.
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### Author:  [@TennisDaze](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/TennisDaze)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/are-sale-values-higher-or-lower-if-minerals-are-leased/52725/4 "2019-11-03T19:22:56Z")
It depends. If the minerals are leased and there are permits filed or wells being drilled, then that raises the value considerably. Or if the minerals have been drilled out and the wells have already been producing for many years. The value will be affected by the royalty rate in the lease - 1/8 vs 1/4. Unleased minerals have the potential for a bonus, but that value depends on whether the minerals are in a good area or not. You need to research the leasing, drilling, formation depths, etc., in the area where your minerals are located.
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### Author:  [@TODD\_M\_Baker](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/TODD_M_Baker)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/are-sale-values-higher-or-lower-if-minerals-are-leased/52725/5 "2019-11-03T21:50:30Z")
All those factors are part of my “all things being equal.”
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### Author:  [@MRFAdmin\_SV](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/MRFAdmin_SV)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/are-sale-values-higher-or-lower-if-minerals-are-leased/52725/6 "2025-01-11T18:11:11Z")