# API numbers
**URL:** https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943
**Category:** Doddridge County, WV
**Created:** [October 7, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943 "2014-10-07T17:45:04Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@anna](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/anna)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/1 "2014-10-07T17:45:04Z")
I have interest in 3 old vertical wells in Grant District 2 active, 1 abandoned. Will the company use the same API number when they begin drilling the new (fracking) wells? How soon do they pull a permit before drilling the new well?
thanks đ
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### Author:  [@Arnold\_L\_Stuart](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Arnold_L_Stuart)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2014, 6:52pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/2 "2014-10-07T18:52:29Z")
Anna: To answer your first question, No, a new API # WILL BE USED. If your wells are within a unit Usually 640 acres +, then the fun begins. To start with, you need to know your map and partial number within Grant District so that when a permit is issued you will know if your wells are within the unit. If you know who the company is that is or was drilling the wells, then they will know if they have assigned the unit to another company that drills horizontal wells. The answer to your last question, âcould take yearsâ. Now that I have completely confused you, I will ask some of the members of this forum that is a whole lot smarter than I to add comments.
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### Author:  [@anna](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/anna)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/3 "2014-10-07T18:58:25Z")
I was told 1st well was being drilled first week October (this year) 2nd well is being planned for 1st week of November, and possible will drill several more after that. I have been watching for permits on original API numberâŚdid I mention Iâm ânewâ to this stuff~? đ
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### Author:  [@Arnold\_L\_Stuart](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Arnold_L_Stuart)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2014, 7:45pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/4 "2014-10-07T19:45:07Z")
Anna, is the company that is drilling the Vertical Wells the same company that is drilling the horizontal (doubtful). There is a tool that we all use here to check on permits issued, comes out weekly. âWest Virginia Department of Environmental Protection Oil and Gasâ then go to Weekly report. If you could provide us with the Map and Partial someone on the forum might be able to help find the API number, providing it has been issued.
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### Author:  [@Nancy\_Mosley](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Nancy_Mosley)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/5 "2014-10-09T01:49:10Z")
> **[Weekly Reports](https://dep.wv.gov/oil-and-gas/GI/Pages/WeeklyReports.aspx)**
>
> The West Virginia Department of Environmental Protection (WVDEP) enforces state and federal environmental laws in West Virginia to help protect our air, water, and land.
Arnold L Stuart said:
Anna, is the company that is drilling the vertical wells the same company that is drilling the horizontal (doubtful). There is a tool that we all use here to check on permits issued, comes out weekly. âWest Virginia Department of Environmental Protection oil and gasâ then go to Weekly report. If you could provide us with the map and partial someone on the forum might be able to help find the API number, providing it has been issued.
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### Author:  [@anna](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/anna)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/6 "2014-10-09T15:01:26Z")
Thanks Nancy and Arnold, yes I have been checking the above link weekly. Antero is the company doing the new drilling. I was checking that site by watching for the farm name (currently) and the original wells API numbers in Doddridge County, also looking only under the âlease MODsâ listed.
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### Author:  [@Katrina\_Posey](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Katrina_Posey)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2014, 4:02pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/7 "2014-10-09T16:02:01Z")
Fracking is NOT a type of well; it is a process they do with a well, just as cementing and other stages.
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### Author:  [@anna](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/anna)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/8 "2014-10-27T17:58:28Z")
Does anyone know how far in advance the oil company obtains the permit to drill?
Thanks.
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### Author:  [@Richard\_G\_Robinson](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Richard_G_Robinson)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/9 "2014-10-31T17:20:23Z")
Anna, As far as I can tell, there is no set time frame tying the date of permit to date that the well is drilled. The drilling schedule changes constantly. The leasing company usually wants to have as much acreage leased as they can afford. This is true for numerous reasons. Once they drill a well that produces anything, they then have that property locked up for as long as it continues to produce. As a general rule, the more acreage they control, the more leverage they have to entice investors. When the lease is negotiated it should include a time frame for having to drill. I may be wrong, but as far as I know, there is no state mandated expiration date on a drilling permit. I know that I have one permit on my property that was assigned in 1962. It was never drilled, but still shows up on the DEP maps.
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### Author:  [@anna](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/anna)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/10 "2014-11-09T22:51:56Z")
I am getting leery of the people Antero is sending out to make deals. Our family has dealt with 3 different Landmen. Our wells were scheduled to be drilled first week of Oct. and second first week of November. The last I checked⌠no permits have been pulled, but I could be wrong. I have the original API numbers and the farm name where they were located, but thatâs as far as I got. The Landman said she handed all her paperwork over to the office and everything was on track. This has been such a long haul getting all the family together on this, I think they could have a little better communication with the people they are dealing with or trying to deal with. \*sigh
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### Author:  [@Nancy\_Mosley](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Nancy_Mosley)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2014, 3:23am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/11 "2014-11-11T03:23:41Z")
Yes agree about the landman attitude. You good friend until you sign then usually thatâs the last you hear. Then you need to find out who is the internal (Antero) land department employee who has charge of your area. Even that person is probably too busy to be very helpful. They have what they want.
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### Author:  [@Katrina\_Posey](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/Katrina_Posey)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 6:09pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/12 "2014-11-17T18:09:46Z")
They are NOT FRACKING wells, itâs just a process in drilling the well, just like flossing is a process in brushing your teeth. They first will drill each well 4, 6, 8 or 12 (if you are lucky) then the fracking is done after cementing, so there are several processes. They started one of mine in Doddridge County July, 2013 and was turned in line this July 2014.
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### Author:  [@anna](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/anna)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 6:45pm UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/13 "2014-11-17T18:45:14Z")
agreed Nancy
Nancy Mosley said:
Yes agree about the landman attitude. You good friend until you sign then usually thatâs the last you hear. Then you need to find out who is the internal (Antero) land department employee who has charge of your area. Even that person is probably too busy to be very helpful. They have what they want.
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### Author:  [@system](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2018, 12:13am UTC](https://www.mineralrightsforum.com/t/api-numbers/8943/14 "2018-08-15T00:13:45Z")