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Ward County, TX - Oil & Gas Discussion


Ward County, TX - Oil & Gas Discussion

Oil & gas discussion group for those interested in Ward County, TX. Share your experience regarding lease bonus, royalty rates, drilling activity, and oil & gas news.

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Ward County TX Oil & Gas Permits

Started by Dave Thompson. Last reply by Clint Liles yesterday. 270 Replies

Post, discuss and share information related to Ward County Oil & Gas permits in the replies below.Thank you to Clint Liles for championing the effort to keep us all up to date.Continue


Started by Linton Tomlin. Last reply by Linton Tomlin on Tuesday. 21 Replies

I have a Ward County, Texas map on my wall, if you send me your block/section/survey, I'll take a picture and upload it here or send it to you at an e-mail address if you prefer.

Saltwater Disposal Well Permit on My Land Without My Knowledge

Started by Anne Marie Greene Whatley. Last reply by John Armstrong Nov 8, 2014. 1 Reply

I have never seen this issue in the Discussion Subjects and value the opinions so generously shared here by Ward Co. Mineral Rights Group Members. I found out, quite by accident , that a Permit for a…Continue

We hold mineral rights in section 193, block 34

Started by Bryan Woodruff. Last reply by Anne Marie Greene Whatley Nov 8, 2014. 3 Replies

It has a producing well (natural gas) but we have not signed anything with the landmen nor with Anadarko.  They owe us back royalty payments.What should I expect in terms of the lease for our…Continue

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Comment by Bret Hilby on February 25, 2015 at 9:33pm

What is the value of land without mineral rights?  Getting offers and they seem low... but, again, mineral rights not included.  Thanks.

Comment by Mike East on January 8, 2015 at 1:56pm

Attorney suggestion:

Thomas J. Howell of counsel

Key Harrington Barnes P.C.

3710 Rawlins Street, Suite 950

Dallas, TX 75219  4237

Direct Dial:  214 884 4811

fax: 214 615 7926

Email: thowell@keyharrington.com

I have use Mr. Howell on Oil and gas leases in addition to Right Of Way (ROW) Leases.  He is a mineral owner in Texas.  He is very good and I would recommend him.  There are however many other attorney's  for your selection in the mineral rights forum, yellow pages but word of mouth recommendations are the best. 

Mike East

Comment by Shawni on January 8, 2015 at 8:27am

Rock man,

Your advice reiterates what we have been told from the start: stay as a group and consult an attorney. So right now that is the goal. We are mainly in the Austin/Corpus Christi area so if there is a recommend for an attorney in this area feel free to reach out.  

Comment by Shawni on January 8, 2015 at 8:18am

So what I am gathering from comments below is I will either be paying the bank or a mineral manager to run the show if management by the group of beneficiaries is out of the question (which it is). It sounds like a  mineral manager should have more knowledge on the subject and could potentially help us maximize our profits. Where as the bank may or may not. Either way, I will definitely look into the TCU class. That sounds like something very important that I will also recommend to the other beneficiaries. Thanks for the info. It has been very helpful!! And if there are any mineral managers on this site feel free to reach out to me.  

Comment by Wade Caldwell on January 8, 2015 at 7:18am
Really good comments from TennisDaze.
My experience has been that bank trust departments are, in general, not very good or aggresive mineral managers, and their fees are high. I am sure there are some exceptions. Also, I suggest the 13 of you hang together for management and lease negotiation purposes. You have much more leverage as a group.
One alternative is to form a partnership or LLC and get professional help from an attorney or mineral manager. The hard part is deciding who among the owners will be the manager, what kind of authority they will have, and whether they get compensated for their time.
Comment by TennisDaze on January 4, 2015 at 11:27pm


     First, it is not generally a logistical problem to file deeds dividing the mineral and surface rights among a specified group of beneficiaries as they usually will receive the interests in uniform, although not necessarily identical, percentages.  Second, the bank is collecting fees and likely wants to preserve this arrangement.   If the trust owns significant property, it will pay to negotiate any management fee if you elect to continue under the trust.

      You need to ask the bank for a written list of all of the wells and properties, both surface and minerals, owned by the trust.  The minerals will be in gross acres (eg 640 acres in section) and in net mineral acres (1/8 minerals = 80 NMA), for each section.   You should ask for copies of all of the documents related to the trust properties – deeds, leases, trust legal document, checks to see the payors and royalty decimals for the various wells, last 5 years of trust tax returns with all related detail (not just your K-1 form), etc. 

     You need to determine what the bank is doing and what it is charging for this work.   How is the bank actively managing your properties?  Is there continuous and active leasing or are these old leases?  Is the bank only collecting royalties and disbursing the funds among the beneficiaries, besides paying the property taxes.   My experience is that bank trust departments generally collect revenues, but do not actively audit the checks to be sure that all royalties are paid accurately for each and every well.   Also, the bank may or may not negotiate better lease terms and you need to see if the bank is only signing the lease form presented by the oil company or it is using a protective and detailed lease form.   How much money has accumulated in the bank or are all the revenues being disbursed to the beneficiaries?

     I favor personal involvement in all property management decisions.  You can hire an attorney, accountant, etc to help, but you should be involved.   If you elect to treat this as simply “mailbox” money, then you will lose revenues.   There is definitely a benefit for the beneficiaries to work together as it is much easier to negotiate better lease terms and to manage properties.  If you are close, you may want to consider setting up a partnership.  I recommend that you all attend the Royalty Owner Programs at TCU Energy Institute for an intensive introduction to mineral management.   It can be a lot of work, but rewarding.  www.energyinstitute.tcu.edu/workshops

Comment by Rock Man on January 4, 2015 at 3:59pm

Shell has 500+ BO & 900 MCF per day) and one waiting on completion.

Suggest you go to Tx RRC GIS site to view this area and see location of these wells and related information.

There are no new / recent permits in either Section 72 or 28.

Comment by Evelyn G. Green on January 4, 2015 at 2:05pm

Legal description is Section 72, Scrap File 835, Mrs. P. A. Black Survey, assuming a common boundary line between Section 72 and Section 28, Block 1, W&NW. Ry .Co. Survey. 

Comment by Rock Man on January 4, 2015 at 12:22pm

The link to this Tx RRC tutorial is from August 2013, but it should give you an idea of what can be obtained from this free site.


Comment by Rock Man on January 4, 2015 at 12:19pm

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