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A Rant

Something happened yesterday that made me less willing to be so free with my knowledge.

A woman called and started bombarding me with questions. It's hard for me to say no, so I answered a few, then a PAYING CLIENT buzzed in and I told her that I would call her after lunch.

Apparantly, I did not call her back quick enough, so she called me and I was at the Post Office. When I returned I gave her a call (after lunch, well before closing). She immediately wanted me to listen to all of her oh so important problems.

When she took a breath, I stopped her and asked her if she had been to my website. She said yes. I asked if she understood what I did for a living? She said yes.

I asked her if she would call an attorney and ask him questions without the hope or promise of compensation? She said "No" I told her that there was no difference.

She loudly told me that she was told, blah, blah, blah. That there was a difference, blah, blah, blah.

I told her that I found her to be rude and I did not want to talk to her anymore. After that call, she called me back to tell me that she was NOT rude. My reponse was "As you say. I am more than a bit amazed that you called me back." Then she hung up on me.

I doubt that she has read 1 Timothy 5:18

Actions speak much louder than words, no?

Buddy Cotten

Mineral Manager

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Permalink Reply by Stephanie Wilbanks, CPL on October 15, 2011 at 2:23am

You may advise or offer advice. Sorry, had to throw it in. People have been improperly substituting "advise" when it should say "advice". Ha. I do it too. I guess we are all fallible as human beings. Some more than others, huh?

Permalink Reply by Buddy Cotten on October 15, 2011 at 12:19pm

Dear Stephanie,

I agree. I also believe since it was in quotes, he was winking at the IQ of those seeking "advise" in his previous (or maybe current) location in Cuero, Texas.

Best,

Buddy Cotten

Mineral Management

Permalink Reply by Bigfoot on December 14, 2011 at 9:18am

I just had to put my two cents worth in on this one. These forums are great information gathers and I enjoy the open discussions; but, I always have to remind myself that "free" brings in the free crowd. And with the free crowd comes the "you owe me" attitude. That's why I prefer an open forum with limited personal information and contact information.

Permalink Reply by floyd holmes on January 30, 2012 at 1:29pm

How does a novice go about finding a Landman or Oil Company that might be interested in their oil rights. Mine are located in Arapahoe County in the following area: Township 4 South; Range 60 West. I do have the deed in hand for the mineral rights, but am not owner of the surface rights. Floyd

Permalink Reply by r w kennedy on January 30, 2012 at 2:12pm

To start with Mr. Holmes, I would start my own thread so my question didn't get buried in someone elses. I would list my mineral rights at the bottom of the home page of this site and I would join the most appropriate county group and post my minerals there, read the previous posts, and ask if anyone knows who is leasing in the area my minerals lay. Beyond this there are other forums ( not as good as this one in my opinion ) and I have even heard mention of listing minerals on Mineral Hub. I also recommend that you make certain that you have a deed in your name or a recent statement of claim with up to date contact information in the county courthouse, so those who might be searching for minerals in your area can easily contact you. Good luck.

floyd holmes said:

How does a novice go about finding a Landman or Oil Company that might be interested in their oil rights. Mine are located in Arapahoe County in the following area: Township 4 South; Range 60 West. I do have the deed in hand for the mineral rights, but am not owner of the surface rights. Floyd

Permalink Reply by Suzanne Vohs on February 11, 2012 at 10:19am

Lacy said:

Just out of curiosity Mr. Cotten, how much do you charge for your services?

Permalink Reply by Suzanne Vohs on February 11, 2012 at 10:23am

I paid $60 in Dec 2011 and by The middle of January 2012 he had done nothing and wouldn't even reply to my inquiries about what progress had been made. I finally sent an email basically telling him I would be no longer needing his services and I hired an attorney, David Hermanson, in Williston to do what I paid him to do and I got nothing in return for. Isn't it odd how someone can cause you to trust them just because they answer questions on this blog?

Permalink Reply by Stephanie Wilbanks, CPL on February 15, 2012 at 9:04pm

Rocky Arell said:
... and "we're the badguys" portrayed by the landowner community?

Thanks, Rocky. Landmen are being stereotyped and getting a really bad rap on here. I've helped a lot of people for nothing. Some were appropriately appreciative, ie thank you's, and others were sorely lacking in social graces. As Bigfoot says, some people unfortunately have this mistaken idea that they are "entitled".

Permalink Reply by Rocky Arrell on February 16, 2012 at 9:33am

Steph: Thanks for the support and empathy. Read AAPL President Jack Richards remarks in the Jan'12 Landman 2, Jack's a UT/PLM classmate of mine and I share his position on that is the incumbent duty of all landmen of authority, whether in-house or out-house, to insist on their delegates be AAPL members. Myself, while a 20 year CPL, I'm critical of the Certified Professional Landman in its absence of exclusion of practice by non-CPL(AAPL) and that any number of academic/career workshops offer blitz classrooms on fundamentals of landmanship then issue a "certificate" of attendance (not competency!), then the person presents themself as "certified"? Oh, come on now !!! Nail technitions require more classroom/certification that a "landman". As you might imagine, I've an advocate of the licensing issue ... what not? You and I earn, demonstrated ans sustain our skills and integrity and should our career be infiltrated by last nights bullrider? Again, myself: in the early stages of Eagle Ford work in DeWitt County, Texas (where I resided with an office/infra-structure, known in the community, etc.) likely becasue of my insistence on a professionally earned day-rate, lost a placement to a broker to a person that I personally know was shampooing dogs at the vet clinic the prior week, then pranced around the community as a "landman" ... or course, fit hit the shan when they got their 1099 at the end of the year and hadn't been advised of the self-employment tax rate and the necissity of quarterly estimates being paid (Ooops, now how am I going to make payments on that new car, new boat, new ATV, etc?). Article in recent New York Times referred to the landmen canvassing the state/Marcellus as door-to-door salesmen ... yep, AAPL, you've done a great job with our public image .... erk, NOT!!!! later, RA